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[–] RedditRefugeeTom@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Out of a 3 minute trailer, I saw 15 seconds of gameplay. But let's be real. This is Bethesda. We know what to expect. Tons of bugs and an already prepared statement to release after people realize their $70-$300 game isn't released in a playable state. The best thing to do is wait for release. Check out reviews from your favorite source and also User reviews. Then wait a year for the community mod that fixes all the bugs that Bethesda was not able to fix. Then you might as well wait another year for DLC and for Starfield to be on sale.

[–] Naryn@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

There's like a 50 minute gameplay walkthrough.

[–] theterrasque@infosec.pub 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Out of a 3 minute trailer, I saw 15 seconds of gameplay.

Yeah, I was confused too. Then I found this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMOPoAq5vIA - I haven't watched it yet, but it seems to be a new video going through gameplay.

[–] RedditRefugeeTom@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Definitely. Just found that video myself. So far it looks good, but I'm still being realistic: these are handpicked well developed segments ready to showcase the public. This is still Bethesda at the end of the day.

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[–] frost@beehaw.org 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I really like what I'm seeing, ranging from the depth of things to do, to how granular the systems are, to how much I love the art direction Bethesda has taken. That said, it still won't be a day-1 buy for me when it launches, I simply don't trust big AAA releases anymore and will wait at least a little while to see if it's simply unpolished, or flat-out broken.

[–] BurningnnTree@lemmy.one 11 points 1 year ago

Starfield players on day one: "This game is incredible and life-changing! I'm so glad I pre-ordered!"

Starfield players on day 2: "PSA to new players, be careful not to go into space or else your save will get corrupted!"

[–] Mogster@beehaw.org 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The Starfield Direct showing really sold me on this. It looks like it comes the closest to my dream space game of anything released so far. Elite Dangerous nailed the feel of piloting your own spacecraft, but I didn't get on with the actual structure of the game. No Man's Sky continues to do amazing things, but its spaceflight feels a bit too stripped back for me and it still feels a little too aimless for my tastes.

This looks like a perfect middle ground, all backed up with a full blown Bethesda RPG too keep me engaged. :D

My only criticisms based on the Direct are that characters, and indeed character interactions still look a bit dated compared to more recent games, especially Cyberpunk 2077, and that the combat still looks a little janky. Don't get me wrong, it looks a lot better than Bethesda's older games, but still seems to be showcasing some rather basic AI and spongey enemies. Hopefully the RPG elements will make this side of the game feel more rewarding.

[–] TEKUMS@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The characters seem to still being doing that Bethesda thing where they just stand in attention at you and stare you down lol.

Really curious to see how the combat actually feels and if there will be a V.A.T.S. like system, I know that's something that a lot of people like and the combat is this game looks a lot faster than any combat in a Bethesda game before. So it could turn some people off who aren't a big fan of fast paced combat but really enjoy Bethesda stories and worlds.

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[–] pumpsnabben@beehaw.org 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As always, try to keep your hype in check and wait for the release. It sure looks good now but we'll never know until someone has played it.

Let's hope it will work out excellent!

[–] runwaylights@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Hype checking is not my strong suit

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[–] setsneedtofeed@beehaw.org 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Maybe I am just incredibly contrarian, but the art direction really inspires no emotions in me. I understand the idea of "NASApunk" but it looks like every DeviantArt near future art page. Blocky construction with a lot of triangle shaped cutouts and scalloping.

There is the cowboy sector and the cyberpunk sector, and on their own they look more interesting, but it seems like a kitchen sink approach to a tone instead of something with a more coherent identity.

I hope the game has more heart and identity, and I end up being one of those haters shown in a retrospective video on how great it is.

[–] Sintamo@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I completely agree with this take, including the "I hope I'm wrong" bit. It just looks... bland? Like it's relying on the idea of space being expansive and vast and full of... well, everything that exists - but in the end will it just feel like a Bethesda game with space assets subbed in?

Then again I still play No Mans Sky so my desperation to be a space-man is obviously without limit.

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[–] Havoc8154@mander.xyz 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

After that 45 minute breakdown I'm very excited for No Man's Skyrim. I can definitely understand the hesitation, it's almost definitely gonna be riddled with bugs on release, but I've got gamepass, so I'll happily beta test for y'all!

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[–] chrs@programming.dev 8 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Looks cool, but didn't look like it featured that much gameplay on a "Gameplay Trailer". My trust in Bethesda is at an all-time low, but let's see if they manage to pull this one through, without it being an empty universe with generic gameplay.

[–] shapesandstuff@feddit.de 6 points 1 year ago

There's also this gamplay video:
https://youtu.be/uMOPoAq5vIA

Haven't checked it out yet but it seems to track so far. let's wait and see.

[–] Noah@lemmy.fmhy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm def starting to think that planets might have the no man's sky issue and just be blank environment with nothing of real value in it.

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[–] RandomException@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 year ago

This new trailer combined with the year old one does give some idea of what to expect. I got a feeling that mechanics-wise it's going to be pretty close to Fallout 4 and also the art direction seems to be heavily inspired from the Fallout series as well.

If the same team really has worked on this that worked on Skyrim and Fallout 4 then I expect quite a decent gaming experience. There will be all the amusing bugs and lots of repetitive quests but then again also I would expect some kind of coherent atmosphere and story telling. It's been so long since Skyrim and FO4 were released and I still keep going back to play them because the world has a story after all and somehow there's still something new to find out after all these years.

In FO4 for example I played through the Cabot quest line and had never really given any thought of reading through their terminals and stuff. There's quite a lot of story telling for such a small quest line but it's not forcily fed to the player if they just want to get all the fancy stuff from the quest and keep on crunching through all the other quests in the world.

Yeah, I'm most definitely going to buy this at launch. I think FO76 has been the only really bad release from Bethesda (and I've been around gaming stuff actively since Oblivion) so I'm going to be an optimistic with this one!

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[–] hyorvenn@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A space exploration game with a "scan everything" mechanic, what a surprise.. Really sick of this feature that replaces actual game design

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[–] Screak42@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Don’t know why but I’m skeptical. AAA releases have been quite often a disappointment for me the past few years. Hope it’s going to keep the promise…

[–] twistedtxb@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

It looks and feels very Bethesda-esque, for better of worse

[–] Gregu@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It’s Bethesda so I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s bugs at launch. But still looks pretty cool!

[–] JasBC@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Bug? No sir, here at Bethesda those are called "features" or, as we like to say, "Modder's Delight".

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[–] edo@beehaw.org 6 points 1 year ago

This looks very cool and like it'll hit a lot of things I like in games. But, woof, the "will I buy it?" decision tree will be nuts: Will it run well on my 1060? Do I want to play it enough to upgrade? How much will I need to spend? Will I use my PC enough to justify spending?

It does look cool, though.

[–] RandomBit@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago

I’m excited! It looks to have combined the universe of No Man’s Sky, the main storyline of Interstellar & Contact, and the diversity of factions and cities of Skyrim. I’m a Patient Gamer so I won’t be preordering (this game or any other), but I’m optimistic we will (eventually) have a winner.

[–] pinkpatrol@anarch.is 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Excited for the ship building and the fact I can land anywhere on a planet. I'll try this out since I have Game Pass.

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[–] NabiscoShredderWheat@lemmy.antemeridiem.xyz 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm excited. It's Bethesda so of course it'll be full of bugs. In some ways it's become part of the Bethesda charm. The on planet gameplay looks like a very polished No Man's Sky and that's a good thing.

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[–] gogozero@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

my big hope is that it'll run with proton on linux...

[–] NuPNuA@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

All the previous games in the engine work on the steam deck, obviously it's been modified for this game but fingers crossed it continues.

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[–] sl3dge@programming.dev 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Will it be on steam? If yes I'm fairly certain it'll work fine. I'm able to play Microsoft Flight Sim on Linux so Starfield should be piece of cake

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[–] Pliny@lemmy.fmhy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

That got me pretty hyped.

The ships, cities, space travel, combat and planets look awesome.

Less enthused by the character designs and models which look straight out of Skyrim. Character faces still have dead eyes and barely any expression to them which frankly seems a little unacceptable in 2023. Nevertheless this is a day one for me, this looks like it has loads to enjoy.

And as soon as the mods start coming out oh boy, it’s going to be pretty awesome.

[–] misguidedfunk@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was kinda hoping we could get better facial reconstruction for NPCs compared to Skyrim considering how long it's been.

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[–] Captain_Pieces@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago

With Bethesda making an entire galaxy for this game the next elder scrolls has got to come out alot quicker right? Going back to a single province(or maybe even a few) has to be a walk in the park by comparison Huff's more copium

[–] thedeserter@lemmy.fmhy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

Based on the extended gameplay, I’m super hyper. Don’t think I’m going to pre order it. I have an old gaming laptop. No idea about optimization yet. But hopefully it’s Bethesda experience in space! Such times I really wish I had a decent gaming rig

[–] Mandy@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Are we gonna have 16 times the detail again?

[–] MoonRocketeer@beehaw.org 6 points 1 year ago

See that moon?

I love that most people that were watching made this joke and Todd literally says the thing a few minutes later. It had to be intentional.

[–] hschen@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 year ago

actually 1000x the detail considering you get 1000 times the planets

[–] koncertejo@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

It looks fantastic, really excited to get to play it in a few months. Remains to be seen whether or not my GTX 1060 is up for one more adventure or if this'll be the game that finally packs it in. Definitely still tempering my expectations on account of Bethesda's recent spotty track record.

[–] jack@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I don't get the hype... I watched the gameplay trailer and it looks intensely underwhelming. Ignoring the sales jabber, it looks like a big, empty world which, at its best, is a knockoff of No Man's Sky. They barely show any shots that aren't the PC staring at a big, uninspired vista or having bland combat in bland sets. Considering how Bethesda releases go, how AAA releaes in general go, and the fact that trailers like these are supposed to OVERsell the game, I'm not really all that interested right now.

[–] RandomException@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Considering how Bethesda releases go

Fallout 76 was a flop because it just is a bad game, but haven't Bethesda releases been otherwise a great success pretty much always? Oblivion, Skyrim, single player Fallout games have all been great hits and are still actively played to this date.

That's why I'm actually slightly hyped for this. I reflect the trailer to the gaming experience of Fallout 4 and get the feeling that this is just going to be yet another Bethesda game I'll be playing after 10 years still. Sure, there are going to be lots of funny and not so funny bugs but I guess nowadays that's the way every game is released.

Bethesda has a better track record than the bandwagon naysayers want you to believe. It all comes down to personal preference though and I have loved pretty much everything they put out. Form your own opinions. Not that of sad neckbeards with nothing better to do that crap on what you love.

[–] jack@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Bethesda games are usually succesful, Bethesda releases are usually a pile of crap. I can get past the "release $70 garbage and patch it up" model, but I don't see anything here that makes me want to. I could totally end up loving it - not going to completely write it off based on trailers - but nothing I'm seeing here looks all that interesting.

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[–] Kaldo@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

It's pulling the same strings in people that star citizen has for a decade now. I personally also really want a good immersive space sim game - I don't know if bethesda can deliver it, I am pretty sure I will be disappointed with how shallow it is since they tend to cater to the masses - but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't excited to see how it turns out, if they maybe manage to pull it off this time.

After all, what else is there to look forward to in this genre?

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[–] Schwarz@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Looking forward to ship and outpost building. I wonder how much freedom you have in factions you can join?

[–] fraenki@feddit.de 8 points 1 year ago

Probably the same freedom you have in Skyrim: Nothing changes except you now have an additional quest line.

[–] Skyteck@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago

This looks fun. Happy it’s included with game pass. Gives a good chance to try it then buy the full game if it’s as good as I’m hoping.

[–] TheTrueLinuxDev@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago

Going to be interesting once the modding come about on Starfield. I would still wait for the reviews to come out before buying the game though.

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