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Millennials: It's ok to mourn the death of social media::Wired writes how "first-gen social media users have nowhere to go." Ouch.

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[–] BedSharkPal@lemmy.ca 254 points 1 year ago (14 children)

I'm just excited the internet is in part going back to its non corporate backed roots with Lemmy mastodon and the like. The internet started that way, and thanks to the enshitification it will hopefully slowly revert back to it

The idea that corporations were involved in social media was insane looking back. The results were exactly what one would have anticipated

[–] VaultBoyNewVegas@lemmy.world 89 points 1 year ago (8 children)

I remember when I first started using Reddit and there was so much weird and crazy shit that it really did feel like there was a sub for everything. Now it's so sanitised that it's nowhere near as diverse in its content and subs, hopefully Lemmy/fediverse can have as many different instances as old Reddit and the active community too.

[–] Corgana@startrek.website 45 points 1 year ago (8 children)

What I don't understand is who is moderating the big subs and why? When r/funny, r/holup, r/publicfreakout, r/damnthatsinsteresting (and I'm sure many others) are all basically the same memes and short videos, what kind of "community" is that? What kind of person signs up to clear the spam out of what is essentially 9gag 2.0 for free?

There are many smaller communities that would probably be happy to move to the Fedi if it were easier and bigger, and I hope Lemmy evolves to the point where those can be absorbed. Reddit can keep the endless meme scrolls.

[–] whofearsthenight@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago

It's only the smaller ones that I really miss in the fedi. Like, my pipeline for memes is doing fine, I doubt i'm missing any cultural touchstone moments, but on the corpo-net if you needed info specific info about your window box AC unit, not only was there probably a sub, but there was a larger sub just for general AC that would probably ban your post and say something like "hey post this in windowAC."

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[–] pete_the_cat@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

BreadStapledToTrees had me so confused the first time I found it. It still confuses me. Even though I have only been active on Reddit for the past 5 years, even I saw a massive change in it.

When I first found GoneWild and the like I was like "Mother of God, this is amazing..." and now 85% of the porn subs are just OF advertisements.

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[–] grue@lemmy.world 95 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If by "mourn" you mean "tap-dance on its fucking grave," then sure!

[–] pete_the_cat@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I just moved to Miami and don't know where to meet groups of like-minded people. There is nothing on MeetUp, but there are groups on Facebook. I hate that I had to sign into that garbage fire for the first time in years. My whole feed is filled with "suggested posts" of people I don't know nor things I give a shit about.

[–] HerbalGamer@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean, you did move to Miami.. why are you expecting sophistication?

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[–] Botzo@lemmy.world 80 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] Kyle_The_G@lemmy.world 92 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I only mourne reddit, that website was a lifestyle back in the day. Thats why i'm here lol. God I miss the good oll' days.

[–] Thwompthwomp@lemmy.world 48 points 1 year ago (11 children)

Yeah, it is a bit strange. That was a central hub of where I got news, jokes, stayed connected with internet culture. That's mostly gone now. So many things feel splintered anymore. I'm old so I don't keep up with the latest games, but that feels all over the place---too many games, too many communities. Streaming/TV stuff---very few people I know watch the same things I do, and I miss the joy of watching something new and then talking about it the next day moments. Worse now is that most people can't even access the same content since there are too many services. Music is strange now too. Partly, I'm just not connected to pop culture, but also everyone is listening to VERY different stuff (referring to college-age folks---most other millennials I know just listen to NPR, podcasts and 90s mixes). There doesn't seem to be any monolithic music culture at all anymore. Everyone has super customized spotify playlists. I know a big part is just millennial aging, but also reddit kept me connected to broader things, and now its just like everything else and enshittified and disappearing. sigh ... get off my lawn I guess :(

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That was a central hub of where I got news, jokes, stayed connected with internet culture. That’s mostly gone now. So many things feel splintered anymore.

Its returned closer to what the internet was BEFORE reddit. People cultivated lists of bookmarks for sites they'd visit for their daily special interests. Lemmy is still a larger audience than what we had before. For jokes you might go to fark.com or somethingawful.com. These were the user driven humor aggregators of the day.

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[–] Bluetreefrog@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There doesn’t seem to be any monolithic music culture at all anymore. Everyone has super customized spotify playlists.

I've noticed this too. In some ways it makes it harder to find new music.

[–] datavoid@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Makes it harder to find popular music, but way easier to find music that appeals to you personally

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[–] Tat@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

fuck reddit, shell of its former self

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[–] DerisionConsulting@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Looks like a small formatting issue:
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[–] can@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Guess Sync doesn't support subscript

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[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 76 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I don't mourn "social media." I mourn what we had before they started using that phrase.

[–] pete_the_cat@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

Facebook was actually awesome back in the late 2000s. I had an account when it was just 4 year universities, that was it's hey day.

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[–] spyd3r@sh.itjust.works 71 points 1 year ago (4 children)

As someone who was on the internet before social media existed, please let it die in a fire.

Everything now is curated and cultivated by corporations and political entities to weed out any "unacceptable" discourse and content that doesn't support a particular agenda or narrative.

[–] Adalast@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

100% agree. I was learning networking and internet coding back when Javascript was new, web 2.0 was going to revolutionize our lives, and Macromedia was releasing a little animation software called Flash. As an elder Millenial I can confidently say that the death of social media would be the absolute best thing that could happen for our society as a whole. The society was not mature enough for it, still aren't. Maybe next time it is invented we will be ready and someone will remember to keep the damn corporations out of it.

[–] BeautifulMind@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

TBH I'm right there with you when it comes to wishing corporate social media a fiery demise.

And yet, I'm happily using decentralized/non-profit social media that I'd very much like to see flourish. The thing I don't like about social media today is that it's billionaires selling personal info to people that want to direct advertising or propaganda to intellectually defenseless people, I really think democracy can't withstand the firehose of bullshit that now empowers bad actors to lie at scale that used to require traditional media or state resources.

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[–] TORFdot0@lemmy.world 64 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Mourning? More like dancing on its grave. With the fediverse being everything social media 1.0 was and more, there is no need for the legacy platforms. I just hope that the fediverse can get some more traction with folks outside tech circles and we can normalize cooperation and free social platforms as in free speech not as in free beer.

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[–] naticus@lemmy.world 57 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's also all right to laugh maniacally as it all burns down.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That was my thought.

I don't mourn it's death, I celebrate it.

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[–] oDDmON@lemmy.world 43 points 1 year ago

Once advertising got involved, it was all downhill from there.

[–] j4k3@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Social media is like a public toilet; anyone is free to use it, no one should drink from it." -Llama2 70B by Meta

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[–] alonely0@programming.dev 31 points 1 year ago

Gen Z, I mourned Reddit for 30 seconds. Now I'm here.

[–] Sygheil@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nah, forums are more organic old school is cool.

[–] ParsnipWitch@feddit.de 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Forums are social media as well, though. They just have different features. "Social media" are all websites and applications which allow sharing of content between users.

I think a forum was just less anonymous. I never remember any name on Lemmy, for example. On the forums ~back in the day~ I actually got to know the people. We even had forum meetings in real life.

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[–] hperrin@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago

I feel like it should read, “Millenials, remember to drink water in between your champagne glasses while you’re toasting to the death of social media.”

[–] Cowbee@lemm.ee 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The worst is the ever-shortening of content into an addictive format. It reduces mental clarity.

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[–] Number1SummerJam@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The thing that threw me off Facebook was the 2016 election and the Cambridge Analytica scandal, even though I ran a popular meme page. I thought I found a sanctuary on Reddit, but looking back everything major on it was shilled to advertise or sow political discord. I thought Google Plus had a lot of potential, but nobody I knew would join and y’know, Google’s privacy record.

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[–] rustyriffs@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's not over though, it's really just beginning again.

[–] Corgana@startrek.website 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Something tells me the editorial staff at Buisness Insider might have a harder time than most visualizing an online social landscape built around being, y'know, social, and not for profit.

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[–] Colour_me_triggered@lemm.ee 25 points 1 year ago (11 children)

Social Media is cancer. Good riddance to bad rubbish.

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[–] fne8w2ah@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Especially fuck meta and xitter.

[–] HERRAX@sopuli.xyz 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Worst part is that they actually started out kind of great, and killed all alternatives. Then they became progressively worse because of their predatory algorithms and whatnot, and now it's borderline impossible to get friends and family to switch to an alternative like mastodon or pixelfed...

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 24 points 1 year ago

Imagine mourning the death of social media.

I mourn its creation.

[–] Reygle@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I for one celebrate the inevitable crash/death of all this social media. It's turned normal people into unacceptable drooling trash. That is if you're able to ignore the data collection and use of it, in which case it turned the whole internet into a dumpster fire as well.

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[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As long as humans are social creatures, and the Internet connects us, there will be social media in some form or another.

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[–] metaphortune@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I grew up on forums / IRC / IMs, later transitioned to Myspace, then Twitter / Facebook / Tumblr / Instagram. I had a lot of fun over the years, it definitely saddens me that I can't get the things I liked about those experiences back.

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[–] csolisr@communities.azkware.net 20 points 1 year ago

On one hand, it's a bit sad to see the average person not know about the Fediverse and claim "welp, there's nowhere else to go, it's either staying on the same ten junkyards I know or quitting cold-turkey". On the other hand, the relative obscurity kind of comes from the fact that there's no single main instance of the Fediverse. Sure there's things like Mastodon.Social, Lemmy.ML and Misskey.GG that concentrate most users of their niche, but by nature, there is not (and should not be) a centralized place where everybody is, that can be used as the poster child for the Fediverse.

[–] Luisp@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 year ago

More like piss over the grave

[–] 21Cabbage@lemmynsfw.com 14 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I'm not mourning, I've just done what I've done every few years for at least a decade now and just found a new fucking home. Plus, I think this and mastodon will be my home for awhile now since the decentralized nature of it makes it really easy to avoid the bullshit that brought me here.

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