he was trying to kill the king because the king was protestant and he wanted a king who'd force everyone to be catholic it's celebrating that he was stopped hung drawn and quartered L + rip bozo
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Glad you pointed this out. The efforts of Guy Fawkes and his team were to restrict the rights of many. Although the character of V For Vendetta is cool, it's very, very loosely based on the actual Guy Fawkes (who gives me the impression of a bigot, from what we know of the gunpowder plot).
Common religious squabble L for everyone.
ummm no
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gunpowder_Plot
who sought regime change in England after decades of religious persecution.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_Fawkes
In 1604 Fawkes became involved with a small group [...] who planned to assassinate the Protestant King James and replace him with his daughter, third in the line of succession, Princess Elizabeth.
I always knew God was a Protestant🥰🙏
The real religion is the one that ignores the text of its own holy book when one particular king really wants to
Protestantism existed before Henry VIII and actually started out on a "the pope is corrupt and catholics have stopped serving god" platform
Then the protestant churches banned fun and everyone responded by losing interest in religion so catholic countries are actually more religious now
After the Muhammad spinoff I kinda stopped paying attention to the series ngl
catholic countries are actually more religious now
In South America and Africa, somewhat maybe depending on the country and what you're comparing to (current day America maybe, Middle Ages catholicism definitely not).
In Western Europe, L. M. F. A. O. I don't think there's a single catholic (or formerly catholic, now secular) country in Europe that comes close to being as religious as the US, by any useful metric.
Within Europe we can try to compare Catholicism vs Protestantism, but let's be real, most of these guys were murdered, converted, or sailed off to the new world centuries ago.
Within Europe though, most Catholic areas (Iberia, Ireland, Poland, Italy etc.) are more religious than Protestant areas (Germanic countries) with the exception of France which is about equally religious...
The same pattern follows in the Americas, even though as you say the puritans were sailed off to the US centuries ago
AKA the "I only know about Guy Fawkes Day because of V for Vendetta" crowd.
AKA Americans
Or anyone outside of Britain.
No one from Chile really cares, either.
Western, white countries are all the center of their own universes
Western, white countries are all the center of their own universes
Means nothing. Every country should act in its own (ie: the peoples) best interest. They should always be the centre of their own universe, as they have limited ability to change things outside such.
Yep.
We know.
Tbf I only know about him cos of the shitty rhyme
At least I'll never forget the date
"The last man to enter parliament with honest intentions".
TBF it's a celebration that a plot to use terrorism to institute a Catholic theocracy failed.
IDK why people idolize the guy, he was a wannabe Catholic theocrat.
That shit Bloody Mary did, he wanted to do that but make it stick this time.
You mean before or after he's appropriated by Alan Moore as an anarchist symbol?
It's called Guy Fawkes night, not James 1st night or Cecil of Salisbury night. We mark it by setting off explosions and burning things, just like Guido wanted to do. Guido gets the cool character design, and big screen reimaginings where he's a badass counterculture dude. Guido failed in his plot, but he won the PR war.
"Come on, kids! Let's go door to door asking for help celebrating a guy burning to death!"
To be fair, burning to death is probably marginally less excruciating than crucifixion and people who claim to LIKE that Jezza guy can't get enough of celebrating THAT happening to him every spring 🤷
Yeah, but this is celebrating the execution of a terrorist. It would be like if the U.S. had Bin Laden Day. It's tasteless if you think about it.
I'm pretty sure that, had he been real, the Romans would have considered that Jess character a terrorist too, though.
But yeah, it IS all tasteless lol
Yeah but tasteless + time = celebrated tradition
Not sure if your conflating Halloween or talking about the way we ~~nicked~~ asked if we could have any 8nused wood for the bonfire
The latter. Although kids just used to ask for money.
As a kid in the UK in the 80s we never did the penny for the guy thing. No one ever gave us anything
Not surprised. What was a penny worth in the 80s? My dad and Grandmother were English and they told me about doing it when they were kids in the 1910s and the 1930s.
While the phrase was penny for the guy that was not the expectation.
Might be geographical I was out Glasgow way back then
In 1910??! You're doing well, I have to say!
It was definitely a penny when they were kids. That link said it started dying out by the mid-20th century. I thought people just went around asking for bonfire wood after that.
That's what we did. To the point about August the adults would start hording scrap wood rather than binning it. That was until the bigger kids started lighting it early so. This resulted in us only having 1 day to build it
no one ever gave us anything
Well, they won't of you don't ask!
Perhaps it was regional. I was also a kid in the UK (midlands) in the 80's and I, my brother and a few of the other lads from the estate went door to door with "penny for the guy" not everyone answered, but we got enough change to buy sweets.
Didn't trick or treat back then though.
To be fair, the government ~~at the time was~~ is an asshole.
The older I get, the more I sympathise with old Guido
don't blame me i was celebrating man getting hit in the groin with a football
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