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“I visited a school, hosting thousands of displaced persons,” Lazzarini continued. “The place was overcrowded. The level of distress and the unsanitary living conditions were beyond comprehension. Everyone was asking for water and food. Instead of being at school to learn, children were asking for a sip of water and a loaf of bread. It was heartbreaking.”

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[–] TinyPizza@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

White also said the average Palestinian in Gaza is living off of two pieces of bread made from U.N. stockpiled flour, The AP reported. But the situation is growing more dire.
“Now people are beyond looking for bread. It’s looking for water,” White said.

When these people die of thirst, who's neck will the noose go on for their collective murder?

[–] stella@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] TinyPizza@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

I believed that to be implicit as neither the US or Israel would abide by the demands of the ICC. Agreed and thanks for helping to clarify the point.

[–] dmonzel@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And then does nothing to stop it because it's being held hostage by the US.

[–] TinyPizza@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I think the UN should have an actual defensive army to rapidly deploy in situations like this. Attacking the peacekeepers shows the world your true colors.

[–] dmonzel@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Nah, because while the UN is a good idea in theory, it's just an extension of the American empire as it is currently organized.

[–] TinyPizza@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah, I'm saying like actual functional, non hostage to the US, UN. Like how the people who envisioned it wanted. The body that ends the wars of aggression.

[–] dmonzel@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The "people who envisioned it", however, were imperialists. They merely claimed that's what they wanted the UN to be to make it more palatable to those who would fall under the control and influence of the Big 5. The UN has always been, and will always be, a tool of imperialism as long as there are countries that have the ability to rule by minority (see the vote for a ceasefire in Gaza. Only three counties did not vote in favor. Ukraine abstained, and the US and Israel voted against. Because the US has veto power, it didn't pass )

[–] TinyPizza@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] dmonzel@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Nobody's perfect" makes it sound like the UN was corrupted. It was never about all nations having equal say. It is functioning as intended by the post-WWII major colonial powers. You, I, and everyone who was ever told that the UN was there to make the world more fair and to give everyone equal say bought into a lie the UN successfully sold us.

[–] TinyPizza@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah, was just trying to exit with levity. I don't disagree with the flaws of the institution or it's founders. Just trying to support a functional end to war, whatever that may be.

[–] stella@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Okay, how about what it should be instead of what it is?

[–] dmonzel@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not even sure what it is you're attempting to ask.

[–] stella@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Regardless of what the UN was envisioned to be, or what it is, what should it be?

That's what we should be asking when trying to come up with improvements.

[–] Limitless_screaming@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Good luck stopping the US from attacking and sanctioning it to death then.

[–] TinyPizza@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

We can still dream my man. Impossible things happen all the time; all it takes are the right ideas under the right circumstances. We just need to be ready to take that step when we see the opening.

[–] livus@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@TinyPizza @TinyPizza although the UN is made up of hundreds of countries, we can't stand up against any of the superpowers.

The US made a clear threat when it passed a law authorizing itself to conduct a military attack on the Hague if ever we try to try any of them for war crimes.

[–] TinyPizza@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I know. I would volunteer every presidential war criminal, even if it meant my own life in return. I'm endlessly apologetic for the way we've malformed the world and excuse ourselves from consequence. Nothing will ever be fair as long as we refuse to play by the rules and ask our allies to do the same. We can only hope the civilization that follows us is more genuine and humane.

[–] livus@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

@TinyPizza I agree with your sentiments though. It's quite telling that it's South Africa who has been calling for UN peacekeeper intervention to protect civilians in Gaza...

[–] TinyPizza@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Damn, wild ass future we're in. Thanks for the info!

[–] stella@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That would be awesome.

Instead of joining your nation's military, you can join the world military.

[–] TinyPizza@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

As long as it is an exclusively defensive military, I'd have to agree! Maybe it could go a long way to help people understand each other and that we are all the same.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 1 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


A United Nations (U.N.) official described Gaza as a “scene of death and destruction” amid food and water struggles faced by the territory Friday.

Thomas White, Gaza director for the United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East (UNRWA), said he has traveled “the length and breadth of Gaza in the last few weeks” and called it a “scene of death and destruction,” according to The Associated Press.

White also said the average Palestinian in Gaza is living off of two pieces of bread made from U.N. stockpiled flour, The AP reported.

In similar remarks Friday to the U.N. General Assembly, UNRWA Commissioner Philippe Lazzarini also talked about his recent experience visiting Gaza.

“I visited a school, hosting thousands of displaced persons,” Lazzarini continued.

Instead of being at school to learn, children were asking for a sip of water and a loaf of bread.


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