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Yeah, I'm saying like actual functional, non hostage to the US, UN. Like how the people who envisioned it wanted. The body that ends the wars of aggression.
The "people who envisioned it", however, were imperialists. They merely claimed that's what they wanted the UN to be to make it more palatable to those who would fall under the control and influence of the Big 5. The UN has always been, and will always be, a tool of imperialism as long as there are countries that have the ability to rule by minority (see the vote for a ceasefire in Gaza. Only three counties did not vote in favor. Ukraine abstained, and the US and Israel voted against. Because the US has veto power, it didn't pass )
Pobodies nerfect.
"Nobody's perfect" makes it sound like the UN was corrupted. It was never about all nations having equal say. It is functioning as intended by the post-WWII major colonial powers. You, I, and everyone who was ever told that the UN was there to make the world more fair and to give everyone equal say bought into a lie the UN successfully sold us.
Yeah, was just trying to exit with levity. I don't disagree with the flaws of the institution or it's founders. Just trying to support a functional end to war, whatever that may be.
Okay, how about what it should be instead of what it is?
I'm not even sure what it is you're attempting to ask.
Regardless of what the UN was envisioned to be, or what it is, what should it be?
That's what we should be asking when trying to come up with improvements.
Good luck stopping the US from attacking and sanctioning it to death then.
We can still dream my man. Impossible things happen all the time; all it takes are the right ideas under the right circumstances. We just need to be ready to take that step when we see the opening.