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Linus' thread: (CW: bigotry and racism in the comments) https://social.kernel.org/notice/AWSXomDbvdxKgOxVAm (you need to scroll down, i can't seem to link to the comment in the screenshot)

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[–] eighty@lemmy.one 125 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I can relate to the "how the fuck is being a concerned human being extreme/poltical?" energy in the post hard.

[–] argv_minus_one@beehaw.org 51 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hate is mainstream politics now, sadly. So yes, not hating is political as well.

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[–] flibbertigibbet@feddit.de 107 points 1 year ago (11 children)

Political? For everyone outside of America that's just common sense.

[–] LlamaSutra@sh.itjust.works 37 points 1 year ago (2 children)

In Canada it’s starting to become “political” since our morons are egged on by the morons down south.

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[–] empireOfLove@lemmy.one 101 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Linus gives exactly zero fucks about saying exactly what's on his mind. And it's almost always massively based. He's always been great about that, we don't deserve such a great mind.

[–] CrownCrafter@lemmy.ml 37 points 1 year ago

Remember the time with the anti vaxxer, man was firing with all cylinders

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[–] Plasma@lemmy.ml 91 points 1 year ago (3 children)

FOSS is an active political statement!

[–] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 39 points 1 year ago (18 children)

Was just coming here to say that. The entire Ethos of Open Source is basically the people owning the digital means of production. So some people really not grasp that?

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[–] xenago@lemmy.ml 54 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Linus has always been political and principled, I mean he chose the GPL for a reason! Glad to see him state all of this outright though, it only makes me respect him more.

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[–] bobslaede@feddit.dk 54 points 1 year ago (16 children)

I don't see how his, very reasonable, views makes Linux itself (more?) political. What is the point of this post?

[–] makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml 32 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The man can say what he wants and it's nothing to do with Linux. And, his gun stance seems fair to me. I think he is an intelligent man, and I think he's allowed to say his thoughts without some lame arse trying to tie his ideals to the OS. Move on, nothing to see here.

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[–] mFcGlNBcfr@lemmy.ml 31 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I don’t think the title is good, but I do think it’s notable to some extent. With people having weird, shitty opinions, it’s nice to see someone who is relatively famous in the tech community for having somewhat sane opinions and being vocal about it.

In my experience, the Linux community has got its own bunch of free speech weirdos who would reject some of these political points (especially the trans position), so I do think in that context it is kind of important.

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[–] original_ish_name@lemmy.ml 50 points 1 year ago (4 children)

THE LINUX KERNEL HAS A FEDIVERSE INSTANCE??????? :D

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[–] seahorse@midwest.social 48 points 1 year ago (10 children)

I half agree with his gun regulation stance. While ideally there would be more caution given to who owns guns that is unfortunately not the world americans have been living in the last 80 years or so. The fascists have guns, lots of them, and I'm not giving mine up while they have them.

[–] Metallinatus@lemmy.ml 51 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, yeah, fascists having guns is a "randomly giving guns to any moron with a pulse" problem.

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[–] RenaHersch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 45 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Holy shit a based Linus is not what I expected to see today. Makes me prefer Linux even more than I already did.

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[–] raccoon@lemmy.ml 45 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Hard fisagree. Linux isn't political. Everyone has an opinion, it's obvious Linus would too. But I am pretty happy that his opinion is one I personally agree with. Linux can be uaed by anyone though, and nothing stops far right activists (terrorists) from making a distro, which would still be Linux. There's a heavily religious distro too, but that doesn't make Linux as a whole religious.

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[–] Generator@lemmy.pt 42 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Maybe because he's not "American" and comes from a country with regulations like the rest of the world, and people care when they vote to make things work.

And like most of the rest of the world, there are more than two political parties, and is not a drama show.

[–] Andreas@feddit.dk 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He has American citizenship and lives in America, he's talking about America here. And I promise you that other countries, yes even those in the magical fantasy land of Europe, also have lots of political drama despite having more than two parties in the government (They tend to form alliances based on left/right and split into two blocks anyway).

[–] Generator@lemmy.pt 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I know, im from Europe.
The drama is not compared to USA, we don't vote on celebrities.

In my country we even have a party for the animals and climate, so when USA still trying to vote for basic rights, we already ahead and vote for animal rights and more climate change.

[–] Andreas@feddit.dk 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah no, this "America Bad and backwards 3rd world country while us Europeans are so enlightened" circlejerk isn't constructive either. The American political system is terrible but a lot of European countries, mine included, are copying their "celebrity drama show" attitude towards politics because of extreme American cultural influence. We shouldn't deny our own problems.

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[–] DidacticDumbass@lemmy.one 38 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Linus is stellar example of "good is not nice."

He will rake you over the coals because he cares about quality and expects better from everyone.

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[–] Puls3@lemmy.ml 38 points 1 year ago (11 children)

One great thing about about software is you don't have to agree with or care about what the creators thoughts and beliefs are, software is at the end of the day just software.

Doesn't get any less political than that.

[–] ravermeister@lemmy.rimkus.it 25 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I create software by myself and disagree. First it's very political where and for whom I choose to develop software. Second, software is always made for a purpose and the purpose can be indeed (and is) very often linked to political or social cause. E.g. a software which only purpose is to harm people, say for controlling mass destruction weapons is in my point of view a very political software

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[–] Hexorg@beehaw.org 36 points 1 year ago

I’m also happy to discover social.kernel.org instance!!!

[–] thatonedude1210@beehaw.org 36 points 1 year ago

This is one of the reasons why I respect him so much.

[–] maddison@lemmy.ml 34 points 1 year ago

average based Linus take.

[–] vanderbilt@beehaw.org 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Linus delivering the well-deserved beatdown as always.

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[–] Maerman@beehaw.org 33 points 1 year ago

Hell yeah. I love watching this man take a stance.

[–] Viktorian@beehaw.org 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Linus is just such a treat. Love the guy.

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[–] krolden@lemmy.ml 32 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You should only support gun regulation if it applies to cops as well.

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[–] thilo@lemmy.ml 31 points 1 year ago (6 children)

In my experience, people who explicitly state to be apolitical or demant non politicality happen to have worldviews which only in the best of cases fall under the label controversial.

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[–] Metallinatus@lemmy.ml 30 points 1 year ago

Holy fuck, I love that guy even more now. I didn't know that was possible.

[–] k_o_t@lemmy.ml 27 points 1 year ago (13 children)

comrade linus 🫡🫡

but also he’s finnish, which is communist, so he’s obviously a communist smh 🤷‍♀️

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[–] comfy@lemmy.ml 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

"Commies? In MY computer?" More likely than you think.

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[–] mbp@lemmy.ml 26 points 1 year ago

Linus is based as fuck as always. Level-headed and agreeable as always.

[–] FuzzyDunlop 26 points 1 year ago (16 children)

When the only thing that continues to work on you ad-filled web site is the captcha, I’m not interested in supporting your journalism any more.

Protip: You can crash self-driving cars by purposefully misclicking during Captcha checks when they ask you to identify what is a bicycle, a car, a pedestrian, etc. Keep misclicking, your are poisoning the AI with each misclick. Just stay safe on the sidewalk.

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[–] lemme@lemmy.ml 26 points 1 year ago

Did you know that linux kernel source code was leaked to the public? Go see for yourself how political it is!

/s

[–] NotSteve_@beehaw.org 25 points 1 year ago

It makes me very happy to hear Linus say this

[–] SolNine@lemmy.ml 24 points 1 year ago

Incredibly sensible take on all accounts in my opinion! I share all of the same opinions, though I lack the platform to be listened too haha.

[–] matir@lemmy.ml 23 points 1 year ago

I've never been made happier by one of his rants.

[–] FiskFisk33@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

All sensible points, nothing extreme, except maybe the Linus trademark super blunt delivery

[–] josm@lemmy.ml 22 points 1 year ago

This is one of the many reasons I look up to this man.

[–] konki@lemmy.one 20 points 1 year ago

Based Linus!

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