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[–] Norgur@kbin.social 82 points 10 months ago (13 children)

We should point out that Apple cider is an alcoholic beverage with sparkle in UK/Ireland, but just cloudy apple juice in the US.

[–] octoperson@sh.itjust.works 41 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Down to prohibition. For a time you couldn't legally sell alcohol so apple juice was sold under the name cider. Sometimes with handy instructions on how not to store it to avoid it fermenting into alcohol. Then, by the time restrictions were lifted, cider just meant apple juice as far as America was concerned.

(Allegedly)

[–] LazaroFilm@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago (5 children)

Yep. Prohibition was also the reason for Americans to be so into fast cars.

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[–] Aux@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Not just in UK, but literally everywhere in the world. Apart from US.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Nah, US too.

Johnny Appleseed wasn't planting edible apples, he was sowing seeds for a variety that tasted absolutely terrible, but was the best for alcoholic cider. What other country has a folk hero whose mission in life was making sure the next generation never ran out of alcoholic cider?

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[–] LazaroFilm@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)

As a Frenchman from Normandie, and an uncle producing alcoholic cider, I was always very confused when ordering cider at restaurants. Hard cider is the booze one.

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[–] pyromaster55@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

But, in this sense, she's almost certainly referring to mulled cider, which is pretty much exclusively made with the hard stuff, with the some additional flavors and spices, and likely spiked as well.

My personal favorite recipe involves hard cider, cranberry juice, spices, and then spiked with rum.

It's much more fall feeling and alcoholic than either cider alone.

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[–] Skua@kbin.social 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The entire West Country is fuming at both the notion of cider being merely an autumn drink and also it being compared to pumpkin spice

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[–] TurboDiesel@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Yeah, you'll usually see that referred to as "hard cider" here. Though, it's worth pointing out that even American hard ciders are sickeningly sweet. There's a pub near me that has Strongbow, and I've become a big fan.

[–] Aux@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Strongbow is basically a piss in the UK. Sorry for you, guys, that you don't have proper cider over there.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The cloudiness is what makes it AMERICAN, you Limey bastard!

[–] yata@sh.itjust.works 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

French cider is also cloudy. And it contains alcohol.

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[–] TheGiantKorean@lemmy.world 45 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Hmm. I'll have to mull this one over.

[–] modifier@lemmy.ca 6 points 10 months ago
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[–] TheSlad@sh.itjust.works 31 points 10 months ago (6 children)

Buy a juicer, put a whole-ass bag of apples through that fucker, plus a knob of ginger. Simmer that shit in a pot with a few cinnamon sticks and whole cloves.

You can thank me later.

Also if you do actually do this and its your first experience juicing: clean your juicer immediately! Im serious, clean that shit while the cider is simmering. If you let it sit out 'til the next day you WILL regret it.

[–] madkins@lemmy.ml 13 points 10 months ago

I'm not putting my knob any near a juicer. Fool me once...

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 22 points 10 months ago (10 children)

Apple cider is seasonal because it relies on apple harvesting, but there is no reason to not have pumpkin spice any time of year except for artificial scarcity. The same with eggnog except people don't like eggnog much to begin with.

[–] Frozengyro@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Eggnog is delicious, but if I drank it year round I'd put on a hundred pounds

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[–] troglodytis@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago

But apples are available year round and cider is a great storage method. It is available year round. Preferences and market drivers cause seasonal supply increases.

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Actual eggnog is an affront in the fact of god, but the carton of custard flavored milkshake that Southern Comfort sells every year is pretty excellent. I'm led to believe you can even put booze in it.

[–] HipHoboHarold@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Those, sir, are fighting words. Eggnog is one of the best parts of the season, and I am willing to die on this hill!

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[–] CosmicApe@kbin.social 17 points 10 months ago (9 children)

This may just be me being a pedantic little bitch, but I hate when people call it "apple cider" Cider is made from apples, the apple is redundant!

[–] Astongt615@lemmy.one 27 points 10 months ago (10 children)

Cider can be made from all kinds of good fruits (maybe things other than fruits can count as cider, I'm cideroligist)

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[–] xeekei@lemm.ee 16 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] Abird1620@sh.itjust.works 6 points 10 months ago

Meh, let the apple lovers lean into the fact they are getting the good shit.

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[–] Assman@sh.itjust.works 16 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Fun fact. American folk legend Johnny Appleseed was actually a very successful businessman. Rather than planting apple trees randomly, he founded tree nurseries for cider production. He wore pauper's clothes because he wanted to, not because he was some vagabond.

[–] jaschen@lemm.ee 8 points 10 months ago

Another fun fact. Apple seeds are not true to seed. Which means if you plant apple seeds, you will get crab apples.

[–] Squirrel@thelemmy.club 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Fuck that. Put them together and heat it up. Mulled cider is great.

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[–] danielton@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 12 points 10 months ago (2 children)

My local grocery store unfortunately has pumpkin spice apple cider this year...

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[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Meanwhile, the rest of the planet still has no clue as to what pumpkin spice is.

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[–] yoz@aussie.zone 9 points 10 months ago

Pear cider is better than apple cider

[–] Maddie@sh.itjust.works 7 points 10 months ago
[–] snor10@lemm.ee 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'm not from the US and I gotta ask, wtf is pumpkin spice? Dehydrated pumpkin powder or what?

[–] Theharpyeagle@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago (7 children)

It's the spices often used in pumpkin pie and other pumpkin dishes. According to the internet, it's a combination of "cinnamon, ginger, nutmeg, allspice, and cloves".

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[–] ElectroVagrant@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Terrible/wonderful compromise...Apumpkin Spider blend.

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[–] ubermeisters@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I've only got two words for you.

Mulling spices

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[–] Chev@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Why compare a drink to a spice? That's like saying a chair is much better then a rose.

[–] hydrospanner@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Probably because the most popular use of "pumpkin spice" is in a PSL.

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[–] 21Cabbage@lemmynsfw.com 6 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Easier to pour whiskey in, that's for sure.

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