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Some news that would be completely mundane today but scary or shocking in the past.

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[–] kglitch@kglitch.social 145 points 10 months ago (2 children)

A convicted rapist (also charged with 91 other felonies) running for president, with as much chance as winning as the other guy.

[–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 57 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Thanks for saying this. I bet most americans dont know that a convicted rapist was their president. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/07/19/trump-carroll-judge-rape/

[–] MudMan@kbin.social 21 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'm not an expert on the nuance of the US legal system, but "convicted" probably applies to the criminal system, right? What would it be in this scenario? A confirmed rapist? Just "a rapist"?

Still, the guy raped some lady and he's actively running for president. That one would be shocking any time before the mid 2010s, honestly.

[–] skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl 18 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

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[–] andrewta@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago (4 children)

They know . A huge chunk just doesn’t care.

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[–] MudMan@kbin.social 110 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (7 children)

So in this scenario you're back in 1923?

I'm pretty sure it'd be anything including the words "World War II".

Bonus points if it also includes a date.

[–] Susaga@ttrpg.network 50 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (4 children)

You might be able to streamline the process by saying "fears of World War III" and letting them fill in the gaps themselves.

[–] rbos@lemmy.ca 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I might find that reassuring in 1923, if the world makes it a full 100 years with only one global scale war. It's a great run by historic standards.

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[–] Carighan@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago

Yeah, like in that Doctor Who special where they tell the WW1 soldier "Now let's get you back to your first world war" and he goes "FIRST world war?!".

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[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 85 points 10 months ago (7 children)

"Man fired for criticising homosexuality", or maybe "man imprisoned for refusing to hire black person".

People are thinking about technology, but in 1923 people were very familiar with breathtaking technological change. The complete reversal of some social norms, on the other hand, would be almost existentially disturbing to these dudes who believe in the great benevolent Christian empires, and in some cases thought ending slavery was a mistake.

I have to wonder what the residents of the 1920's third world would think. I'm sure there would be many interesting perspectives.

[–] nnjethro@lemmy.world 20 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Those type of headlines upset way too many people today. It's the point of the make America great again slogan.

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[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.de 65 points 10 months ago

Only the richest people have horses. Most just use cars.

[–] IWantToFuckSpez@kbin.social 61 points 10 months ago (2 children)

That Germany is Europes biggest economy. 100 years ago Europe was fresh out of WW1 and Germany was bankrupted as punishment.

[–] dylanTheDeveloper@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Mid 1930s that headline would also be quite disturbing

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[–] Auk@kbin.social 52 points 10 months ago (3 children)

How pervasive surveillance and tracking of people (and their data) is in todays society. We've become accustomed to it but I'd bet people a century ago would be shocked at the idea of stuff like regular people being filmed from multiple angles when just going to the shops, having a device in their pocket constantly recording their location, receiving targeted advertising based on what information they've looked at previously, etc.

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[–] luciferofastora@lemmy.zip 44 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Most international experts consider the outbreak of a third world war unlikely in spite of global surges of violence

Not mundane, but the implications would be horrifying to 1923 society still recovering from "The Great War".

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[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 43 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

Quite a few people would be probably surprised that colonial empires are no more

as for headlines: British PM Rishi Sunak negotiates Scottish independence with First Minister of Scotland Humza Yousaf

[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

also anything involving european union

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[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.de 37 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

– “You can freely marry a Black person in most of the civilized world.”

– “Why would you?”

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[–] DharmaCurious@startrek.website 32 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Climate change, same sex marriage (though, perhaps not as shocking as some might expect, ditto anything trans related), potential mars colonization, coming off the heels of the Spanish flu, COVID news would probably freak em out. Ooh, the USSR being gone, and China being a world super power. The USSR would have been new to them, and it collapsing less than a century later would probably feel quite odd, especially if you could make them understand just how incredibly advanced the USSR got in such a short amount of time. Tons of stuff.

[–] MudMan@kbin.social 23 points 10 months ago (2 children)

In the 1920s a state fresh off a recent regime change disappearing would have been extremely par for the course. You telling that to someone from the 1960s would probably have more of an effect.

I mean, if you showed them a map it'd look nothing like their current political divide. I'm not sure they'd be more shocked by the state of what then was Soviet Russia than by Czechoslovakia being broken up or the other half a dozen changes in Europe alone.

[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.de 16 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I’m Czech, and exactly 105 years ago (October 30, 1918) the approximately dozen nationally aware Slovaks met in an inn and wrote a letter to Prague that they agree to be part of Czechoslovakia as the “Czechoslovak nation” because they knew they couldn't form a state on their own, and split off the hated Hungary. The 4 people who signed our “Declaration of Independence” 2 days prior needed someone to represent Slovakia so they went in the streets searching for a Slovak. Vavro Šrobár, a nationally Slovak lawyer who incidentally just arrived to Prague, came forth and signes the document, and became Minister of Slovakia a few weeks later.

The Republic helped Slovakia reach its industrial potential and gave its people democratic values (except for WWII, we don't talk about Slovakia in WWII). Eventually, Slovak politicians wanted power so they broke off after true democracy was restored in 1989. The Velvet Divorce was so uneventful compared to the end of Communism that people did not really care at all.

So I agree that to informed people in 1923, Slovakia being separate a century later would be no surprise. However, the formation of USSR (which I know much less about) was pretty controversial and involved a civil war so they might be actually be surprised it did last 80 years.

On the other hand, the other changes you glossed over are quite significant, especially with Germany and Poland.

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[–] EmoDuck@sh.itjust.works 15 points 10 months ago

I don't think Mars colonies would surprise them. If anything they'd expect us to have family resorts or Jupiter

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[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 27 points 10 months ago (6 children)

Just an advertisement with a smiling black guy would do.

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[–] kibiz0r@midwest.social 26 points 10 months ago (5 children)

You can buy groceries from a mechanical grocer, but it’ll accuse you of shoplifting like three times while checking you out.

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[–] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 26 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (5 children)

Many countries all around the world possess weapons that could obliterate an entire other country, or their own country if detonated by mistake, and possibly destroy the whole planet.

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[–] ArumiOrnaught@kbin.social 26 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You can have a heart transplant.

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[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.de 25 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Most tram networks and passenger trains have been abolished. Yeah, and you can't walk on the street anymore.

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[–] mrbubblesort@kbin.social 24 points 10 months ago (5 children)

That I have a device that fits in my pocket and can connect to almost anyone else on the face of the planet, as well as tell me any fact I'd like to hear, or any story I'd like to experience. And it does all this about as fast as my thumbs can type out the request.

[–] Carighan@lemmy.world 22 points 10 months ago (6 children)

And yet 99,9% of the time you just use it to get into arguments with people you don't even know.

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[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 23 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Anything price related. Imagine telling anyone from 1920s that you paid 50 dollars for a piece of clothing.

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[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 21 points 10 months ago

Brexit would have confused a lot of people.

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 21 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Most people spend more than three hours a day staring at a small mirror in their pocket that makes colorful dancing lights.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

I, and the vast majority of the world, wander around with instant access to the sum total of human knowledge, as well as the ability to instantly talk with anyone else in the world that we know. Face to face in many cases these days. These devices also allow many of us to remember that *we have a universal translator in our pockets, so language isn't even much of a barrier to communication and understanding each other.The vast majority of us use these wonderous devices to get into arguments with people we are extremely unlikely to ever meet in person.

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[–] catreadingabook@kbin.social 18 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I'd imagine it's the things that still kinda make it as headlines today, but don't get much coverage anymore because everyone is used to it by now.

"By the way, this weekend's mass shootings led to 10 deaths and 29 injuries total, a little more than last week. Parents, remember to bundle up your kids this fall semester with the latest BulletBlocker Youth Jacket, 10% off if you order today! Now back to the news you actually wanted to hear about: the former U.S. President allegedly commits even more crimes..."

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 17 points 10 months ago

Yeah, but you have to consider that "Italian democracy overthrown by former journalist" and "bank sprayed with tommy gun" was recent news at that point. All that shit would shock people in the 60's, but in the 20's the main revelation would be the affordability of bulletproof clothing.

[–] vis4valentine@lemmy.ml 18 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

"A N***** WANTS TO BE PRESIDENT. AMERICA HAS LOST ITS WAYS TO INSANITY"

"F*****S PARADE AROUND THE CITY AND THEY WERENT SHOT AT FIRST SIGHT"

"PATRIOT ARRESTED FOR BURNING CROSSES"

"PEOPLE CLAIMING STATE AND CHURCH SHOULD BE SEPARATED ARE NOT FIT FOR OFFICE, THEY ARE COMMUNIST TRAITORS"

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[–] yojimbo@sopuli.xyz 17 points 10 months ago

8 billion people and growing.

[–] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 16 points 10 months ago (4 children)

1923?

Lenin's body lays in the mausoleum on the Red Square for the last 99 years. Impersonators of him and Stalin walk around in their daily routine, asking money for photoes with them. In a shop not far from them, you can purchaze chinese merchandize with a soviet, russian flags, as well as with a monarchist-sympatising one, even though Romanovs are as dead as they were back then. Some items cost over a thousand of rubles, a sum that was enough to buy a factory - and that's after two recent denomonations. Pretty good that these crowds of international tourists don't count their money being there, these prices can easily drive someone insane.

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[–] Bloodwoodsrisen@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Nearly anything from the Onion or Florida

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[–] hackris@lemmy.ml 15 points 10 months ago (7 children)

That nearly everyone is carrying a tracking device with them, designed to disguise itself as a convenient entertainment device.

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[–] 0x4E4F@infosec.pub 14 points 10 months ago (5 children)

There are still no flying cars.

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[–] baatliwala@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago (3 children)

That people from my country actually had the gall to behave like our country belonged to us and not white people.

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[–] makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml 13 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I'm at the airport, and the robot waiter is standing at the bar, staring at me in a passive / aggressive manner. Taunting me with its non delivery of my food.

Now, I'm no writer, but there's a headline in that somewhere.

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