Terrorist settler kills Palestinian harvesting olives on his land. Terrorist settler: how could Hamas do this?
this post was submitted on 29 Oct 2023
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Where is the Palestinian right to self defence?
But then when the guy's son picks up an AK and takes revenge he is a terrorist
When you don't provide a political solution to a situation, people will resort to non-political solutions.
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In total, since 2005, only 3% of investigation files opened following ideologically motivated offenses Israelis committed against Palestinians in the West Bank led to convictions.
Let that sink in!
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I thought the scripture was quite clear with that whole "Thou shalt not kill" part...
Ah, but that says not to kill people. It says nothing about killing rats! /s
Seriously, though, that's exactly why we're so capable of committing atrocities: we dehumanize each other until we consider it acceptable to kill. Portraying Jews as rats and subhuman is exactly how the Holocaust happened, and portraying Palestinians as subhuman is exactly how Israel is currently doing what they're doing.
Thou shalt not kill people. They don’t consider Palestinians people.
Actually the commandment is, "Thou Shalt Not Kill." The first and foremost commandment that God gave to his people. I'm not religious at all (actually atheistic) but, that commandment does not carry with it any exceptions. Sure people would naturally defend themselves when assaulted, who wouldn't - but that doesn't mean you can ever be redeemed afterward. Just the opposite. Even Moses was disbarred from heaven for killing an Egyptian who was whipping a slave. God means it when he hands down that commandment; it applies to everyone.
That’s not the way people interpret it. The majority of religious extremism directly contradicts scriptures. This is still the justification used
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I don't speak Hebrew but I've been told the original language is more like "thou shalt not murder". That leaves a lot of wiggle room, but "thou shalt not kill" has problems as well—like it could be taken as mandating veganism.
In the end I don't think it matters how the hairs are split—people are gonna interpret it to mean whatever they want it to mean.
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Nah it's ok god is always on their side. (Any group that does terrorist shit)
Jewish scripture always left room for murder.
This book, popular among the Israeli religious right, shows that their thinking (that segment) is much like Da'esh but for Jews: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torat_Hamelekh
Even Al Qaeda thought that killings at least needed a reason.
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Why were the settlers there? Why were they carrying guns there?
They try to defend themselves with "they were throwing rocks at us", but that clearly indicates they were up to something untoward there in the first place.
It's a bit of the same old story.
Israeli settlers: Dangerous terrorists attacking law enforcement, must be repressed without reservation.
Rest of the world: Kids throwing pebbles at an armored vehicle because they hate those who killed or screwed over many of their acquaintances, without even a scratch or hindering their work.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_settlement
Just a reminder that Palestinians attack wasn't just out of the blue, Israel has been slowly killing and driving them out from their land for as long as they've been there.
The international community consider Israeli settlements to be illegal under international law, though Israel disputes this.
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There was a video yesterday of terror israelis posing threatening and blocking the road to the land of Palestinian olive trees while Palestinians tried to harvest
https://youtu.be/UuMUuqqa7NM?si=m0kSUnEn7lxV5qWy
I guess one of those terror israelis decided it was time to do some more western backed war crimes.
Just read this article and get more infuriated:
*Samaria Regional Council head Yossi Dagan issued a rare video statement on Shabbat describing the incident: “This incident is a simple incident,” he claimed, saying that the settler family involved was “upstanding,” and a father and “son, a combat soldier on weekend leave” were “attacked with rocks by dozens of wild Hamas supporters.”
The son, claimed Dagan, “fired in the air to protect the life of his father and younger brothers… the details are clear and straightforward. A family was attacked and I completely back the on-leave soldier who protected his family.” *
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My personal speculation:
Off duty means he will likely end up in front of a military court and they will ask three things: if he followed military procedure for opening live fire, if he felt there was a non-violent way to resolve the incident, and why he was there in the first place. He'll get reprimanded, potentially sentenced for murder, and possibly discharged. More likely is he'll deny guilt, make some claims and bring family as witnesses. In the end, he might even get away with less than a year in military prison.
Even this is highly unlikely: https://www.yesh-din.org/en/data-sheet-december-2022-law-enforcement-on-israeli-civilians-in-the-west-bank-settler-violence-2005-2022/
The reality is that law enforcement forces are just closing their eyes when there is a crime committed against Palestinians and I can imagine that now the bias would be even higher, so most likely he will get away with this murder.
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When I see pictures of small boys in the middle east (like 8 and 10 years old) gleefully carrying weapons, it makes me weep for the future of this world. There's no chance a kid who feels weapons are his only chance of retribution is going to grow up not to want to kill other people.
War is indeed a travesty, no matter who is fueling it. I hope this mindless conflict gets tamped down soon, and the world can try to move on from it.
Yes, I was thinking the same that war won't happen again in Europe that we as humanity have evolved sufficiently to realise that violence is never the answer, but reality has proved me wrong.
I really liked what Jordan's deputy prime Minister has said:
“Violence will only make things worse,“ he added. “The amount of hatred that will come out of this amount of misery will not lead to peace.”
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The west needs to step in again, ctrl-z the postww2 treaties, and give the land back to palestinians. Israel has squandered its chance and this heaping pile of shit all stems from dickheads trying to make the Bible true.
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Followup on this: the settler has been arrested by military police
If there is to be any hope of peace, such cases need to be prosecuted just as strictly as what Hamas did.
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This is the best summary I could come up with:
This brings the number of Palestinians reported killed by settlers to seven since Hamas’s bloody incursion into Israel three weeks ago.
Tayseer Mahmoud said his nephew, Bilal Saleh, was working in the grove in the village of Sawiya with his wife and their four children on Saturday when a group of settlers attacked them.
Settler leader Yossi Dagan said in a video posted on the social media p(platform Facebook Saturday that the shooter was accompanied by family members and fired in self-defense after they were “attacked with rocks by dozens of rioting Hamas supporters.”
The deadly shooting took place amid a spike in settler violence since Hamas militants infiltrated Israel on Oct. 7, killing more than 1,400 Israelis and taking over 230 others hostage.
In addition to the killings, Palestinians in the West Bank have reported attacks on people and property, as well as denial of access to their land.
Since the outbreak of the war alone, more than 100 Palestinians, including civilians, have been killed, most during military arrest raids and violent protests in the West Bank.
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Can we all agree the word "settler" can fucking do one here? You don't "settle" already occupied land. You invade it.
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