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[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think " knowing about FATAL" should be higher, and "having actually seriously played FATAL" should be much lower.

[–] slumlordthanatos@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I only know about it from the memes on 1d4chan.

If someone makes a joke about it in conversation, I'll laugh, but I'd ghost the group in the first session if I go to the GM's place and see a copy of it on his/her bookshelf.

That's a "magical realm" I want to stay far away from.

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I dont think there's an actual published version of it, right? It only exists in 4 ring binder version afaik.

[–] slumlordthanatos@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

shrug

I don't know, and I don't want to know.

[–] TwilightVulpine@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

From what I heard about it, it wouldn't even be fun for the meme. It's too complicated to play for a laugh and too insane and twisted to play seriously.

[–] TheGiantKorean@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Die in character creation" hi, Traveller!

[–] rickdg@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sup 😊 I believe that they’ve changed it now. Instead, you get in debt for life 😅 Progress?

[–] TheGiantKorean@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

😂 They changed it to that? I think I'd prefer death 😂

[–] TheGiantKorean@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I would think more people would know what THAC0 is over GURPS.

I miss GURPS.

[–] TwilightVulpine@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In 2023? I don't think so. I got into D&D decades ago and THAC0 was already not a thing anymore. Gurps may not be widely played today but I still see it getting memed a lot for being complicated.

[–] TheGiantKorean@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I still see THAC0 memes too, though. I may be biased since I was around when THAC0 came out.

[–] Moonguide@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm very new to DnD (started as a DM a couple weeks ago), heard of gurps because of fallout message boards, no idea what THAC0 is.

[–] TheGiantKorean@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

GURPS is such a great system. A lot of rules, but they all make sense, and it's so flexible.

THAC0 (To Hit Armor Class 0) was an attempt to simplify combat in earlier editions. Before then, each class had a table they had to refer to to know what they had to roll to hit a particular armor class. It's much simpler in 5e.

[–] PhinaryDivision@ttrpg.network 3 points 11 months ago

Jumping from AD&D 2e to 5e was such q trip, not being able to triple class confused the hell out of me

[–] MajorHavoc@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

In addition to other great information here about THACO, it's worth highlighting that it was upside-down.

Lower rolls were better.

This led to magic items giving both pluses and (good) minuses in order to remain consistent in world. Also some curses and ailments gave (bad) pluses to certain rolls.

It was wildly unintuitive.

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I love how Cyberpunk 2013 gets a mention but literally everyone still pretends Cyberpunk 3.0 never happened.

Also, where do Solo TTRPGS and Journaling games fall?

[–] rickdg@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

That is correct 😂 3.0 never existed.

Solo games are in level 2, in my personal opinion.

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago

Solo games are on there, level 2.

And good, we should all pretend Cyberpunk v3 never happened.

[–] roflo1@feddit.nl 1 points 1 year ago

I’d add it next to bluebooking. I guess?

[–] DmMacniel@feddit.de 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Casus Belli as in a reason to declare war or something else entirely? Because if that's it, all Stellaris and Paradox Grand Strategy Games Player know about that one. Or history enthusiasts.

[–] ArmoredThirteen@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yo what about the gurps/carwars crossover combining two of the best games ever to hit print? Also no love for HōL and the cover of the second printing of their expansion book BUTTery HōLsomeness that was such a pita for me to find that I questioned if it even had a physical printing and took years to find the damn thing?

[–] rickdg@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A lot of cool stuff was left out. No Over the Edge. No Mythender.

[–] ArmoredThirteen@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

One of my favorite weirdly specific rules is from Dragon Magazine #10. Where it gives rules for being in an orgy for as many days as you have con points, so most characters can get it on for like 2 weeks straight lol:

Orgies. Fighting Men (excluding Rangers and Paladins), Bards,
Thieves, and all Chaotics (excluding Monks). Lusty indulgence in wine,
women, and song. Maximum expenditure is 500 GP per level per night
(250 GP if recuperating and under 50%). A player may orgy continuously
as many days as he has constitution points, but then must rest
for as many days as he orgied. (For effects on Psionic Powers, see Appendix
II.)
[–] rickdg@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Not for Rangers for some reason 😂

[–] azrendelmare@ttrpg.network 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Okay, I'll bite, why is Linda Blair in here?

[–] rickdg@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

She modelled for a photo that Tim Bradstreet used as reference in Vampire the Masquerade artwork.

[–] somebody2152@lemmy.wtf 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Makes me feel sad my favorite system isn't well known enough to be here (HERO system, or champions), but it always warms the heart to make fun of old White Wolf stuff some more

[–] rickdg@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Out of the hero RPGs, I chose Capes! as it’s quite obscure but very interesting. I don’t think you can even find it online 😅 https://www.rpg.net/reviews/archive/11/11175.phtml

[–] ArmoredThirteen@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh man this is exactly the kind of obscure hard to find thing I try and collect. Happen to have a lead on how to get a physical copy?

[–] rickdg@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I would also love to get one. A friend taught me the game and even he only had the digital version.

[–] ArmoredThirteen@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

The race is on, and I'll have you know I'm ornery and persistent when it comes to collecting obscure ttrpgs.

[–] bango@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I can't even find results for the last two tiers on google but I"d relly want to know more.

[–] rickdg@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

You can still get a lot of mileage by searching for anything on the iceberg together with "rpg". For example: https://rpgmuseum.fandom.com/wiki/Czege_Principle

[–] DrippyWaffler@ttrpg.network 2 points 1 year ago

Why is CP2013 so far down? It's great!

[–] rickdg@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Sorry, I posted a draft version 😶 this is the complete one:

[–] Atlas48@ttrpg.network 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] rickdg@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Doesn’t that nuke all the comments?

[–] Atlas48@ttrpg.network 1 points 1 year ago

you've still got here, I guess?

[–] Damaskox@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I appreciate this picture! Thank you for sharing it!

[–] rickdg@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Thank you. I loved putting it together 🤓 There’s so much stuff!

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Bass playing? What am I missing here?

[–] rickdg@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Would you like a clue? You can search for “rpg impossible thing before breakfast”.

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 2 points 1 year ago

Thank you very much for that, game master. I shall continue my steady decline towards the rpg abyss.

[–] Enkrod@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

What... What's wrong with Earthdawn? It's a great game with stunning lore and good mechanics.

[–] Yora@diyrpg.org 1 points 1 year ago

I only recognize things as down as GNS and Fatal, and those are really just level 3 stuff.