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This article was posted on another community yesterday. Most of the comments were about how awesome gas is and how crappy electric is.

In my adult life I'd always had electric stoves, and they were fine. Two years ago I bought a house with a gas stove and I was so excited because I love cooking and it's supposed to be the best.

I fucking hated it. There's so many cons to gas stoves that people never talk about and I don't get it.

The waste heat is insane. Your pan and pot handles get hot. You can't leave utensils in the pot or pan, they will burn. It directly heats and humidifies the air in your kitchen. It's finicky on low heat and you can sometimes have a burner go out.

And these are just ways that gas sucks to use. I'm not even talking about health impacts.

We switched to induction and it's definitely the best. But I'd rather have resistive electric than gas.

One benefit of electric and induction that's a bit subtler: you can smell what you're cooking better. With gas, there are all these hot gasses coming up around your pan that make smelling things hard.

Every had to clean up the mess from a boil-over on a gas range compared to a flat top, ceramic electric range?

Never going back…

Induction stoves are on another level. You could sort of argue about open flame vs glass top electric... Though even then, flame had big downsides.

But induction is just superior. Almost no energy loss. No heating the air from the element. No burns from the element. Almost instant response from temp changes.

I also am back on a propane stove and am working on replacing it.

I like the high-speed reactivity of gas (it gets hot enough to cook almost immediately, but I can live with electric and I like the safety of induction (which was nice when young kids were about).

However I grew up in Los Angeles smog which messed up my lungs. So I may be high risk.

I'm too poor to replace stoves or choose homes based on a philosophy, though.

This conversation reminds me of my grandfather. I wonder what he would think of this subject and the addition of induction for cooking.

Cooking on wood was his choice no matter the house modern or rustic, he would install a wood cookstove. He grew up logging and working in remote logging camps. There was no gas or electricity to choose from then.

He use to cook up great breakfasts every day. He hated electric stoves as he said they would only heat up the middle of his large frying pans. There was one that exploded on him. The pans were quite large, dwarfing the large element on a electric stove.

Thinking back it would be odd seeing a woodstove next to a unused electric stove. Anyways Swedish Crepes were his thing. The woodstove was a even heat for him he said. The best heat you could ever get in his mind. My grandmother use to also bake in this stove. He was good at controlling the heat for her.

When they retired to his cabin he built, his wood cookstove also had a water jacket for hot water tank. (there was no power grid). That stove was running from 430am to 6or 7pm at night every day. Then there was the regular woodstove to heat the main area of the cabin. It was only in his last years that he had to accept a propane cookstove in the kitchen for his new wife to cook on in the summer as the days were getting pretty hot to run a woodstove. She also wanted hot water at all times so a propane hot water tank came in the deal. He use to cook a little on the propane stove but wood was always his first choice.

When those issues with overheated pots happen on a gas stove, it is because you have turned up the flame too high for the size of the pot.

We know this. Reagan knew this when he opened the door for lobbyists.

According to Marx ( Das Kapital ) corruption of the government towards the interest of the owning class is inevitable.

We still don't know an effective way to keep government public serving. Marx recommends the end of hierarchy, but that model needs some development.

But yes, government is intended to serve the public and when it doesn't (such as with regulatory capture) that is government failure. US federal and state governments typically fail, only rarely enacting policy consistent with public interest.

The problem is that you want people knowledgeable in the subject to have input, and unfortunately knowledgeable people are usually those that work in the industry as they are up to date with the latest tech, challenges, information, etc.

If you didn't have that input it would just be politicians and lawmakers making the rules all willy nilly with no real understanding of the nitty gritty details.

There does need to be a better way, but I don't know what it is.

We swapped the standard electric for induction and it's a game changer. Fortunately most of our cookware is enameled cast iron so we didn't have to buy all new stuff.

Can I get a loan, because you must be THE MONOPOLY GUY

The induction is mindboggling. Haven't gotten the hang of it yet because I JUST CAN'T UNDERSTAND THE HOW.

It's life changing. I'm coming from the electric "coil" stoves

Granted, it sucks that a few of our old pots are useless now, but we have plenty good still, so not a huge loss

Right. No one has been lying about this.

Everyone should know that being around burning things is bad. It's not like the actual food you're cooking is not also putting these things in the air, even on an electric stove..

most pols remind me of used car salesmen or baptist preachers. depends what they're trying to sell some but basically same tactics