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[–] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 187 points 1 year ago (8 children)
[–] APassenger@lemmy.world 67 points 1 year ago (8 children)

It's this part.

We're telling them they've gone too far, seeing rules... and giving them weapons. Are we giving them seasons so they listen?

And if they don't listen, doesn't this make us complicit and with exceedingly poor intensional optics?

[–] Orbituary@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They know that the worst that will happen is a stern warning. "Don't do that again, but it was justified. But don't do it... OK, just a little bit, but still."

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[–] ghostdoggtv@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

How much Israeli money do you reckon went into the pockets of members of the fascist "freedom" caucus?

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[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 118 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Biden: "For fuck's sake, Israel, don't do something this monumentally stupid."

No points for guessing what comes next.

[–] iyaerP@lemmy.world 71 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Is it ethnic cleansing?

Oh boy!

[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 39 points 1 year ago

"Here I go killin' again!"

[–] sik0fewl@kbin.social 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's been happening for decades and just last week they starting displacing 1MM more. So I don't think "next" is the right word.

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[–] Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world 100 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Or what?

Edit: FYI I'm not supporting Israel doing this

[–] Astroturfed@lemmy.world 101 points 1 year ago (16 children)

Or they'll give them even more money and say some angry things about it.

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[–] Track_Shovel 74 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Massacring civilians is fine, but occupying is a bridge too far, I guess.

[–] drdalek13@lemmy.ml 27 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I definitely get your point here, but a ground invasion would be irreversible. They would never leave Gaza

[–] Serinus@lemmy.ml 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Haven't they done it twice before? Something like 2006 and 2014?

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[–] Dagnet@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

Death is kinda irreversible too

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[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 66 points 1 year ago (1 children)

warehouse workers ask Jeff Bezos not to travel by private jet

[–] NewDark@lemmings.world 16 points 1 year ago

I mean, the US does have access to the money and weapons faucet Israel relies on.

[–] LackingC10H12N2O@lemmy.world 55 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Israel won't even need to occupy Gaza after they carpet bomb whats left of it into rubble. 😒

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[–] SpiralSong@lemmy.world 49 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Biden "And definitely don't occupy 5 different countrys at the same time. Some of them for over 20 years. Come on man!"

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[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 44 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Yeah, what will he or the Democrats do when Israel does occupy Gaza?

Continue to provide unequivocal support and money to Israel?

It's not like they'll do anything else like officially recognize Israel has been acting as a apartheid state causing mass human suffering which in turn grew more mass suffering and conflict.

[–] Wogi@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

Don't you dare cross this line!

Ok don't cross this line!!

Ok don't cross THIS line!

Ok I'm going inside, if you knock, I'm not coming out.

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[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago

After decades of turning blind eye towards Israel's crimes, suddenly Murica thinks it's going too far.

[–] Copernican@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago (25 children)

“I think it’d be a big mistake,” Mr. Biden told “60 Minutes” on CBS in a conversation taped on Thursday and aired on Sunday night. “Look, what happened in Gaza, in my view, is Hamas and the extreme elements of Hamas don’t represent all the Palestinian people. And I think that it would be a mistake for Israel to occupy Gaza again.” But “taking out the extremists” there, he added, “is a necessary requirement.”

I'm not sure how anyone is taking this as a controversial take. Logistically, practically, and the urgent bloodthirst for revenge make this fucking hard to do. But this seems to me to be a pretty even keeled non polarizing take on a complex situation where there is justification for military action against a terrorist group, and that military action must be measured against the safety and needs of a civilian population.

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[–] Zehzin@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

It's ok I told the angry pitbull to not attack the baby I slathered in steak sauce. Anyway, off to golf.

[–] DreBeast@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The US is sending mix signals. Biden condemns Hamas, calls them terrorists, and funds the iron dome. Of course Israel thinks they have carte blanche in the region. Surrounded by hostile nations, what other nations in the world acts as aggressive as Israel. They do it because they know they have the full backing of the US. The question is will we live in a world without any Palestinians in the middle east soon - coz that's where we're headed.

Israel misspelled their defense system. Should be called the irony dome.

[–] Dubito_Cogito@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I agree with you. But I'd like to add this. I live in Israel at the moment, I'm not Israeli but I moved here for my job. I live in a pretty safe area, but we still had rockets coming from Gaza and from up north Hezbolla. They were explicitly targeting civilian areas. But iron Dome and the other system, David something intercepted it. Perspective on life changes when you see a flying missile heading your way only to get intercepted by these systems. The area where I live is full of Arabs, Jews, immigrant from Eastern Europe etc. and had several pro-palastine rallies in the past couple of days, and I stand with them. Also, There have been at least 5 to 6 Hamas strikes every hour since last week, they are targeting everywhere around Israel and iron Dome is on full protection.

I just wanted to add, I don't know what for..

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[–] can@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 year ago (13 children)

But he said he was convinced that “the Israelis are going to do everything in their power to avoid the killing of innocent civilians.”

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[–] Lifecoach5000@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago
[–] oakey66@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (22 children)
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[–] spirinolas@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago
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[–] AutistoMephisto@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Statements like this need to followed up with "or else!"

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