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    I know it's called plasma, and I don't know if it's actually plasmas fault, don't judge me, it's for the meme

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    [–] angrymouse@lemmy.world 84 points 1 year ago (6 children)
    [–] PeterPoopshit@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

    Some people have KDE problems because they use Nvidia. I have KDE problems because I switched from Nvidia to amd but there's no way to uninstall Nvidia drivers in arch without a os reinstall and I'm too lazy for that (games still work, but many of my KDE bugs are probably caused by Nvidia drivers still being present). We are not the same.

    [–] SuperIce@lemmy.world 48 points 1 year ago

    You literally just have to uninstall the Nvidia packages

    [–] Discover5164@lemm.ee 37 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    pacman -Rs nvidia nvidia-tools

    i kinda did the same today, but my machine was headless.

    can you give me more info on why is impossible to uninstall Nvidia drivers?

    [–] keefshape@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

    Just switched from 2080 super to 7900xt last week on Endeavour. Install amdgpu, vulkan and mesa, reboot and install, uninstall nvidia stuff.

    [–] chili1553@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    How do you like this setup? I'm on the same thing, using nixos. It's great, but Nvidia is clearly a buggy mess when I compare to my steam deck (I know not apples to apples)

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    [–] Max_P@lemmy.max-p.me 5 points 1 year ago

    Wat

    sudo pacman -Rnsc nvidia-utils lib32-nvidia-utils
    

    Unless you went to the NVIDIA website and ran the .bin, you're not supposed to do that on any distro unless you want problems.

    Although it still shouldn't use an inactive driver.

    [–] danielton@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    When I last had an Nvidia GPU (secondhand PC), I discovered that the drivers came with altered versions of a lot of the 3D rendering libs. Those drivers are a cancer.

    [–] angrymouse@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

    I didn't know that, but when I changed to AMD I didn't think twice before reinstall everything so I never reached this knowledge.

    [–] Wofls@feddit.de 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)
    [–] angrymouse@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

    I feel your pain, I was there once my friend, just hold on plasma 6 is coming.

    [–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    just hold on plasma 6 is coming.

    It's only a matter of time until Nvidia will fuck up compatibility again. Waiting for workarounds to Nvidia problems is not the solution.

    [–] danielton@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

    I really wish Linux hardware companies would stop selling Nvidia, and that Linux users would stop buying Nvidia. They don't care about us.

    EDIT: Yes I know people with Nvidia switch to Linux with existing hardware. That's not what I'm getting at and I hope those people choose their next GPU wisely.

    [–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    They don’t care about us.

    Nvidia only cares about CUDA and users don't even need to use the Nvidia hardware to output graphics for that. Pretty sure Nvidia barely tests non-headless use of their hardware on Linux.

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    [–] russjr08@outpost.zeuslink.net 12 points 1 year ago

    Or AMD, apparently. The bug report for this issue was explicitly renamed to say "Non Intel GPUs" - even though it seemed to be more likely(?) to happen to Nvidia users.

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    [–] Hubi@feddit.de 30 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I just have "plasmashell --replace" mapped to meta + del.

    [–] backhdlp@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    I totally just stole that one

    [–] Hubi@feddit.de 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    No need to steal, I'm giving it away for free :)

    [–] Wofls@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Do you know the whats the difference by any chance? Would be interested

    [–] Hubi@feddit.de 13 points 1 year ago

    They are both doing the exact same thing. In your case it's just stopping and starting the service with separate commands instead of restarting with a single command.

    [–] douglasg14b@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

    I've had to have such a shortcut for... 4+ years now.

    It gets used too often

    [–] Azzu@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago

    You know what's funny... I use Windows still for gaming and I have KDE connect installed to control stuff from my phone, and I have a "Refresh KDE connect" shortcut because the connection sometimes bugs out.

    [–] dinckelman@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    If you disable previews on hover, it seems to make the issue go away. At least it did for me. The bug report I've submitted months ago is still unsolved, but it's better than having to restart the compositor every time

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    [–] callyral@pawb.social 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    i mostly use kde apps like krita and kdenlive, although when i did use plasma i didn't have these issues. i use sway now because i wanted fully functional tiling (both polonium and bismuth were weird/buggy)

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    [–] Matriks404@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    I eventually want to return to GNU/Linux, but I just don't see a DE that has no drawbacks. The most reasonable choice I think is to just return to MATE, even though it looks dated and doesn't feel to innovate.

    I really want to try KDE out but it looks like a cluster fuck for me.

    [–] ikidd@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Plasma is fine. This buggy reputation is from a decade ago.

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    [–] Wofls@feddit.de 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    I can just recommend trying it out. If you're not stupid like me and use the wayland session with nvidia drivers it is anything but a clusterfuck

    [–] mexicancartel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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    [–] Vitaly@feddit.uk 2 points 1 year ago

    Try gnome, it's really good!

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    [–] floridaman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    ah a fellow Waterfox user, flatpak or appimage?

    [–] Wofls@feddit.de 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    AUR waterfox-bin, btw (¬‿¬") I'm almost glad to have made the mistake to install Arch because through AUR I don't have to get involved in these flatpack/snap/appimage wars xD (also because I have no clue what I am doing, but don't tell anyone)

    [–] floridaman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    ahah lol that's fair, i maintain the flatpak so whenever i see someone with Waterfox on Linux I get curious. Love the AUR but I'm mostly on immutable distros so I don't get to use it qwq

    [–] Wofls@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    I actually used the flatpak on my mint install a while ago, had no problems. So great work for a great browser I'd say xD thanks o7

    [–] floridaman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago

    lol thanks, it's more of a side project atm as I'm juggling school and running IT for my dad's business but I'm glad to hear it worked for you!

    Distrobox says hi! I used the AUR occasionally when I was on Silverblue and there weren't any alternatives short of compiling the software myself. Or rarely if I needed a newer version of something.

    [–] EuroNutellaMan@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    This is unrelated but what's the appeal toward immutable distros to you?

    I don't mean this in a hostile way I'm genuinely curious to know. I usually consider the ability to change anything about Linux as quite a big selling point so these distros seem kinda counterproductive to me.

    [–] IverCoder@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

    I usually consider the ability to change anything about Linux as quite a big selling point so these distros seem kinda counterproductive to me.

    Immutable distros are actually easier to customize and tinker with than traditional distros, while being safer. Example: Universal Blue

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    [–] floridaman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago

    Basically what IverCoder said, but also sometimes I like not having to tinker with my desktop at all. I'm running through an Arch Install on my Thinkpad right now just for the fun of it and I do love this kind of thing, but I'll admit the concept of plugging in a USB stick, installing a distro in one click, downloading my apps through Flatpak and not having to mess with the CLI a whole bunch is very appealing. Yes you can do that with Ubuntu or whatever but (at least in my workflow) you still have to mess with the CLI a bit.

    Basically, I like messing with Linux sometimes but other times I just want a, I suppose Windows-like experience while still having Linux under the hood.

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    [–] Goodtoknow@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Similar to an official cinnamon feature that automatically reloads cinnamon if it's memory usage becomes too high

    [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    I see someone else is also using waterfox

    I've literally never need to do that.

    [–] mlg@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Still don't understand the purpose of wayland besides cleaner code and easier updates for kernel level stuff.

    X11 has been fairly updated with all the features people wanted and needed anyway. Just because no one uses all of its niche and antiquated plugins and extra stuff, doesn't mean its inherently an outdated program.

    [–] citty@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

    I'm pretty sure that recent X.Org server development has been driven by XWayland for the most part, the tags on repo certainly look that way

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