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[–] velipe4831@sh.itjust.works 45 points 11 months ago (5 children)

A cure for colorblindness would be developed by the time gnome implements such a feature

[–] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 19 points 11 months ago

"This is not how we meant it to look 🤓"

[–] Communist@lemmy.ml 18 points 11 months ago

Well, that's not entirely fair, the gnome developers are pushing the issue upstream to the people who can cure colorblindness, because honestly, isn't curing colorblindness the proper solution even if it takes longer?

[–] skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl 16 points 11 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

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[–] velipe4831@sh.itjust.works 7 points 11 months ago

extension

HAHAHAHAHA Just like every other gnome feature right?

[–] joojmachine@lemmy.ml 6 points 11 months ago

Not to mention it's being discussed as a feature for the desktop itself and being designed for 2 years now, way before KDE and elementary started implementing it: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-control-center/-/issues/1401

[–] TeryVeneno@lemmy.ml 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Why are people so toxic? This is a KDE post, at least celebrate the work being done instead of bashing people for no reason

[–] dabu@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

A feature exists for 1 day in KDE and we're already bashing Gnome for its slow dev time?

[–] velipe4831@sh.itjust.works -3 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] velipe4831@sh.itjust.works -4 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 11 months ago

You know you can edit your own posts right? No need to do something like this.

[–] macallik@kbin.social 40 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Good to know. I will say as a colorblind person, it's always a tad ironic because as a colorblind person, the filters don't make things definitive. It's still a bunch of random colors that I can't identify lol

[–] sik0fewl@kbin.social 18 points 11 months ago (4 children)

What are your biggest pet peeves as a color blind person? In software, I mean.

[–] pastermil@sh.itjust.works 26 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Not colorblind, but my guess would be the colors.

[–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 5 points 11 months ago

This made me chortle

[–] Zoidsberg@lemmy.ca 17 points 11 months ago

Those global overlay filters that tint the whole screen never seem to do anything for me at all.

On the other hand, the ones that change specific colours (enemy tags are blue instead of green, for example) are a huge help.

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 15 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Partially red green colorblind here. There's really no pet peeves, but sometimes if I must identify the color/color accent, it takes focus.

[–] macallik@kbin.social 11 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Great question. Had to think about it and I'd say for me personally, poor implementation of color pickers is the biggest frustration.

As a technical user, I have no qualms w/ editing the default selection if it's hard to read due to colors, but I get frustrated with poor color picker implementation. For example, color swaths that don't have named descriptions when you hover over them. Even/especially the standard ROYGBIV colors on the first page of a color picker, but also to a lesser degree, descriptive hex codes on more nuanced online color pickers. I can't tell the difference and don't feel like hearing someone ask why I made the bold choice of making the sky pink.

Another issue is something like KDE's Konsole has a color picker that doesn't have clear names/examples for which aspect of the terminal is being changed, so when I wanted to change the bash custom prompt color to improve readability, I had to edit 5-6 different options, and use trial and error to fix the color.

[–] fiah@discuss.tchncs.de 34 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (5 children)

if this changes all colors with a global filter the way that some games like Overwatch (used to) do, then it's really not going to help anyone. I'm red-green colorblind, so when something is highlighted in red it isn't as obvious to me as it is to people with normal vision. However, the fix isn't too globally mess with all the colors, the fix is to let me pick the highlight color so that I can choose what works best for me. Many games have figured this out long ago (thank you game devs!).

[–] lud@lemm.ee 35 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The funniest is when game devs accidentally implement a mode that simulates colour blindness instead of helping colour blindness.

[–] themusicman@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, I mean doing that makes sense for internal testing, but why the hell would you make it public... Did this actually happen?

[–] Knusper@feddit.de 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Well, they do already have that as part of their normal theming options. There's just software where KDE's theming doesn't apply, like games and webpages, and best they can do for those, is to offer such filters...

[–] fiah@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 11 months ago

best they can do for those, is to offer such filters

well I'm sure some people will find it useful, but in my experience global filters make a global mess of everything without doing much of anything to alleviate the problem. Lucky for people like me, many games already have better options, and in other applications it usually isn't much of a problem

[–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Do you mean the global filters change every colour making all the colours wrong/different, and you want to be able to override just the ones you have trouble with? I've never looked at colourblind options before so I'm not sure what they do.

[–] fiah@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 11 months ago

yeah those ones, they completely mess up all colors and still don't help

[–] ornery_chemist@mander.xyz 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Lol OW was the first thing I thought of.

Me: hey look a protan filter

OW: okay, red is now pink, and everything else is washed out :)

Me: okay tritan it is

OW: lol have fun on your acid trip

[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I have the same, why wouldnt this help?

[–] fiah@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

oh it would for simple graphics like graphs/charts, but it'd be worse than useless for everything else like pictures / photos / video. That's why I mentioned Overwatch as the example, which was the most egregious offender of this. If you turned on the colorblind mode in that game back when it was first introduced, it just ~~chroma~~ hue shifted all colors making it look like this:

how anyone with a functioning eye and brain ever thought that was the solution is beyond me

[–] winterayars@sh.itjust.works 12 points 11 months ago

Not colorblind here but that looks more like a colorblindness simulator than anything else.

[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 5 points 11 months ago

Uhm I dont see red and green that well 😅