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[–] dingus@lemmy.ml 158 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I have drawn myself as a chad and you as an ugly wojack so my position is clearly the correct one.

Windows users hate this one neat trick.

[–] jelloeater85@lemmy.world 49 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I mean, Windows 10 is okay, but man have MS really gotten shitty in the last few years.

[–] dingus@lemmy.ml 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fully agree. Windows is trash spyware now that doesn't respect user choice.

I was really commenting more on the meme itself.

[–] jelloeater85@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

For sure. Man I miss Windows 7, that was the best. No crap, updates just worked. Was nice.

[–] SloganLessons@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It was the inverse for me. Windows 7 was always a nightmare to set up drivers, it was common to manually download the wifi drivers from the laptop's brand website. I groaned whenever someone asked me to help set up their PC.

Windows 10 just works out of the box. The only downside for me is aesthetics, I always preferred Aero.

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[–] TragicNotCute@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (4 children)

How about that XP though? It was pretty excellent in its day.

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[–] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 24 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Yeah, it's cyclical. They're re-entering their shithead phase.

Embrace. Extend. Extinguish. The got smacked with those EU antitrust lawsuits and they reset back to Embrace, and started participating in open-source again. Then they started extending by doing shit like buying GitHub and adding even more cool shit to it. Now they're entering in extinguish phase where they're doing shit like making it difficult to change default browser, and integrating all their services together without the ability to integrate 3rd parties.

They'll (hopefully) get smacked with another EU antitrust lawsuit and reset soon.

[–] jelloeater85@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I really would like them to go back to being the cool weird uncle, not the cousin everyone is forced to play with at family gatherings.

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[–] Furball@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’m literally going to use windows 10 until it completely stops getting updated, by that point hopefully someone will invent a Linux distro that doesn’t irritate me

[–] 0ddysseus@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Have you tried mint? Its basically Linux windows but breaks less

[–] Furball@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I have tried mint, I mostly did like it, but there were just some small things that really got on my nerves. The fact that middle clicking a webpage did nothing was unbearable, that’s how I scroll all the time

That's "autoscroll". It's under the "Browsing" section on the General page of the Firefox settings. It's turned off by default, but you just have to check one box to turn it on.

[–] terminhell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It does do something though, it paste directly from the latest info from the clipboard XD. So, if you highlight something, then middle click somewhere else(not just a browser, basically system wide) it will paste what ya highlighted.

[–] g8phcon2@teacup.social 9 points 1 year ago

default settings, everything on GNU/Linux can be customized. Getting done to change the default is always a struggle. For example it's been decades that in GNUDE the middle button click has been paste, so while it may seem dumb to you that it does that, it's user base expects that to be the default.

But as you've already found in this thread in a meme community, one of the best ways to learn how to customize your system the way you want is to claim in a Linux forum that Linux can't do such and such.

[–] Holzkohlen@feddit.de 9 points 1 year ago

In the last few years? You might want to read up on them

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[–] stonedemoman@lemmy.world 94 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (27 children)

I feel like I'm going to get flak for taking a position that's not completely anti-Windows, but please try to hear me out before casting judgment. I use both OS and think they both have merit. Linux- for the reasons listed in the meme, and windows- for those without the technical know-how, patience, or time for the better alternative.

That being said, if anyone thinks like how this Ed, Edd, N' Eddy looking mofo in the meme does I'll be the first to say that's a horribly bad take lol

Of course it is. There's 0 reason to come after anyone for choosing Linux as any, if at all, of the extra effort incurred is only going to affect them personally.

Edit: Not even a single flak in the comments, the happiest I've ever been to stand corrected. We've done it, world peace achieved.

[–] CriticalMiss@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I think the problem is preinstalls. No one was born understanding how Windows works, we had gathered that experience over time. If the computer you were introduced to was a Linux system (with X11 and KDE or GNOME), then that would be what you would get used to. Unfortunately, getting Linux preinstalls on laptops is basically impossible. Vendors love that preinstall money.

[–] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Companies that sell "enterprisy" laptops (like Dell and Lenovo) usually sell a few models with Linux. And while not a laptop I wouldn't be surprised if almost half of Desktop Linux users today have a Steam Deck.

[–] ZombieMantis@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

I would be one of them 👋 I've used Windows up until I got my SteamDeck, & it works perfectly for my mostly light browsing needs, when I'm not gaming on it.

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[–] Nommer@sh.itjust.works 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I use both. I've tried using Linux on desktop and there's always been a few handfuls of minor but annoying enough issues that make just want to go back to windows on my main computer. For my laptop that I don't use often, Linux is fine. For hosting services on my local network, Linux is fine. Neither are prefect but Linux definitely has come a long ways.

[–] Poggervania@kbin.social 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

How fucking DARE you. People should be forced to learn how to compile their OS, like Gentoo allows, and then have it crash and burn in front of everybody in social studies when you have to present your LibreOffice presentation about why Teddy Roosevelt was objectively the best president and spent a lot of time on making a slide with Abe the soyjack and Teddy the chad.

/s in case somebody needs it

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[–] waybreadenthusiast@feddit.de 15 points 1 year ago

For me the main issue is the time effort and the incompability with other people and my work that work with Microsoft products.

[–] ZILtoid1991@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Linux is slowly getting there, it's developers just need to drop the "git gud" and "special club status" mentality and concentrate more on user experience.

[–] Kidplayer_666@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago

Some people clearly are! Some distros are clearly focused on getting a friendly interface for everything, and proton finally made Linux gaming possible, despite all the grumbling from “purists”

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Yeah like I switched and love it and I think the gap is closing fast, but whether linux closes it or windows closes it is still up to chance. The easier Linux gets for everyday users who don’t want to learn command line the more people are going to use it. The more software that just works on Linux the more easily you’ll convince people. It’s not about getting to where your coworkers or your grandma can use it. It’s about getting your in laws to not need your help to use it after a friend recommended it

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[–] TheyCallMeHacked@discuss.tchncs.de 78 points 1 year ago (2 children)

He says, while using a command that brings a little convenience at the price of control and security...

[–] somenonewho@feddit.de 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I love yes it is an amazing tool. I never had an actual use for it since any tool I might want to use it on (like apt) already has some kind of command line switch for it already

But I just once in a while stumble across yes again and run it for half a minute and have a chuckle.

Just like every time I read: https://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/ed-msg.html

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[–] HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml 59 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Terminal has plenty of convenience benefits over GUI as well. For example you can queue up long-running commands to go one after the other, something I didn't realise how useful it was until I was using Linux full time.

I use this one all the time for archiving stuff and moving it from my PC to my file server. Tar archive a folder, generate a checksum, move the new files over to the server, and then delete the original folder:

tar -cvf folder.tar folder && cat folder.tar | sha256sum > folder.tar.sha256 && mv folder.tar folder.tar.sha256 /path/to/remote/file/server/ && rm -rf folder

The && part stops execution if there is any error so the folder is only deleted once everything else is done without issues.

Can't do that with a GUI. Just make sure to proofread before you press enter.

[–] dingus@lemmy.ml 54 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Powershell, released in 2006: Am I a fucking joke to you?

Linux users: Ehhhh, kinda?

[–] ComradeKhoumrag@infosec.pub 8 points 1 year ago

Wsl is proof powershell is a joke

[–] marhensa@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

for this part yes, automated process often better runs on terminal not GUI.

but that terminal is not exclusive to Linux right? and Windows is not always about GUI.

[–] trailing9@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sha256 doesn't protect your files when bits flip and they are corrupted. If you want that, add a par2 checksum.

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[–] LesDeuxBonsYeux@sh.itjust.works 48 points 1 year ago (5 children)

A bit of convenience. Right, and a liiiiiittle bit of time as well

[–] alldreadme@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just a little.. Turns into a few hours or a whole day sometimes, not that I hate it though.

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[–] joyjoy@lemm.ee 29 points 1 year ago (3 children)

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[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.social 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

...y y y y y y y THE y FOLLOyWING ACTION yCANNOT BE UNDONEy y y y y...

"Shit, what did I fuck up?"

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[–] spudwart@spudwart.com 17 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The price of convenience is always high.

Sometimes it is justified, sometimes it is not.

However, trading basic privacy protections for “but it’s so easy” is how the dark times happen.

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[–] snowraven@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago

Ah yes, linux supremacy

[–] Primarily0617@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

yes linux is definitely only "slightly" more convenient than windows, and also definitely more reliable

in unrelated news i'm now into my 5th hour trying to get 2077 to run without freezing, and my system has only hard-crashed about 3 times during the process

[–] sounddrill@lemmy.antemeridiem.xyz 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ngl... if it wasn't reliable, it wouldn't be the industry lead

[–] Primarily0617@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

it might be reliable for running a mainframe, but running a mainframe isn't really what i want to do in my free time

[–] TheyCallMeHacked@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 1 year ago (4 children)

But then again, is it Linux' fault that publishers refuse to make Linux versions of their games, requiring the users to use hacks to make windows executables work on Linux ?

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[–] nicman24@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago
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