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[–] metaStatic@kbin.social 35 points 11 months ago (2 children)

only 80? get on Australias level Britan, we generated a world wide walkie talkie shortage because throwing one on an executed civillian means he was considered an enemy combatant. Could have been calling in reinforcements and all that jazz.

But seriously these war criminals need to be held accountable on all sides and at all levels of command.

[–] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 12 points 11 months ago

Well, at least the right people got punished. I'm talking about the whistleblower of course.

[–] kabobbl@lemmy.cafe 3 points 11 months ago

I hope so too, but for decades, the British government has done its utmost to prevent members of the military from being prosecuted for killing civilians in Northern Ireland, so I am not holding my breath.

[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 30 points 11 months ago

Sadly unsurprising. Special forces operated at the time with almost no oversight and cultivated extremely toxic internal cultures. I mean, they do now too, but even worse back in the early 2010s.

[–] luthis@lemmy.nz 24 points 11 months ago (2 children)

You gotta be a particular kind of person to be able to pull the trigger while aiming at a kid.

[–] ours@lemmy.film 13 points 11 months ago

Deep-rooted racism and dehumanizing a group of people certainly "helped".

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Stanley Milgrim disagrees, and it's a really important lesson in better understanding humanity! And how humans are obedient to authority.

Anyone is capable of pulling that trigger. The common denominator is simply obedience to authority.

[–] ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago

I think I recall a small scandal because the U.S. considered basically every male in Afghanistan over 16 to be an enemy combatant. I forget the exact details but I remember criticism for undercounting civilian deaths by getting extremely loose with the definitions.

[–] _xDEADBEEF@lemm.ee 5 points 11 months ago

After stories if the other SAS units, it was only time until the UK also ended up in the news.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 4 points 11 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Oliver Glasgow KC, the counsel to the inquiry, focused on seven deadly operations in Helmand province in southern Afghanistan, including one in February 2011 where only three AK47 assault rifles were recovered after the nine had been killed.

Raids on family compounds, intended to target Taliban commanders, “were abused by elements within UK special forces”.

It marks the start of a process long sought by the victims but was only granted by Conservative ministers after two families took the British government to court.

Secrecy conditions imposed by the inquiry mean large parts of it will be held without the public or press present – and that the identities of any soldiers involved have been redacted, as well as the names of their commanding officers and other members of the SAS and many others in the British military.

Glasgow also highlighted emails that appeared to indicate there was an effort to brush concerns under the carpet, and scepticism in some quarters that internal reports on the growing number of deadly incidents were not credible.

A legal officer for the SAS said in February 2011 he was concerned about “the recent spate of high EKIA [enemies killed in action] and said: “I get the sense that the way we are writing these up will not bear scrutiny in years to come,” adding that they would be picked up by lawyers “in the inevitable public inquiries”.


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