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The scientific vessel to replace the decommissioned Canadian Coast Guard Ship Hudson is now $1 billion over its original budget.

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[–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Military procurement is ridiculously expensive, but...we need these damn ships.

[–] sik0fewl@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This one's not military, but a research vessel for Fisheries and Oceans Canada.

[–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Research or not it is Coast Guard, which is...well, military-adjacent, at least.

[–] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Except that it isn't. The Canadian Coast Guard is a purely civilian organization. For example, they don't partake in the war on drugs like their American counterparts do, and they don't have weapons either.

[–] otter@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Although CCG personnel are neither a naval nor law enforcement force, they may operate CCG vessels in support of naval operations, or they may serve an operational role in the delivery of maritime law enforcement and security services in Canadian federal waters by providing a platform for personnel serving with one or more law enforcement agencies.

Interesting, so it's more of a civilian paramilitary organization? I'd say the vessels are still needed, even if it's not directly military

[–] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

No not even paramilitary, their assistance to military and law enforcement is limited to transport basically. Bus drivers essentially...

CG is great, it's annoying that this project is over budget, but I have no problem with them getting funded and equipped.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It comes with a free can of maple syrup though.

Sold in the room!

[–] Rodeo@lemmy.ca -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"I'm not wrong! I'm just sort of wrong ...."

[–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thank you for your invaluable contribution.

[–] Rodeo@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

It was about as valuable as your second comment. Your original comment I agree with, however.

[–] RandAlThor@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago

That's the cost of keeping ship building industry alive in Canada. It's likely cheaper if the Koreans or Chinese built it.

[–] Paragone@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

WHEN a project-cost increases TO A FACTOR-OF-5-TIMES the budgeted cost,

THEN criminal-convictions should be happening.

Just as normal commercial-contracts have a "kill this contract" point, for noncompliance, so too must public-taxpayer-payed projects, at 1.4x or 2x hard-max.

Extortion isn't acceptable, "just because it is government".

Take that extra-billion out of elected-authorities' pensions & pay!

Make the ones who mismanage pay.

Accountability, right?

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