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Democratic presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has made denunciations of his own party a centerpiece of his campaign, attacking leaders with a blend of unfounded election-rigging allegations and real complaints about the disadvantages he faces in the nominating process.

Democratic National Committee Chair Jaime Harrison decided Tuesday that the party needed to respond.

“[I]t is clear that there are serious misunderstandings of the Democratic nominating process that are important to correct,” Harrison wrote in the letter to the Kennedy campaign obtained by The Post. “I am hopeful that a meeting with our Delegate Selection leadership team will prevent future instances of voters receiving erroneous information that could cause confusion about the equity of the Democratic nominating process.”

Kennedy and his campaign manager, former Ohio Democratic congressman Dennis Kucinich, have in recent days claimed that Georgia officials are plotting to strip Kennedy from that state’s ballot for campaigning in New Hampshire; that Democrats have been talking about making Kennedy pay for the cost of primaries; and that party rules have been changed to allow insiders to overrule the will of voters on the first ballot at the convention.

Those claims are either inaccurate or without foundation. Even after reading Harrison’s letter refuting them, Kucinich continued to maintain that they might still be true in the future or that they were true in different ways than initially described. He said he does not trust the word of party leaders since the DNC is working closely with President Biden’s reelection campaign.

“Once the party breached impartiality nothing they say is believable,” Kucinich said.

The refusal of both sides to agree on the plain facts that govern the nominating process, even in the face of clearly written rules, is likely to deepen divisions. Kennedy and his team have started to say in recent months that party leaders will never allow him to win the nomination, even if he beats Biden at the polls, which current polling suggests is unlikely. In August, he polled between 7 and 17 percent nationally among Democratic primary voters in public polls, or roughly 50 points or more behind Biden.

“I think the American people will always appreciate candidates who have the courage and nerve to believe they could win a rigged game,” Kucinich said.

Kennedy has accused his party of “fixing the process so it makes it almost impossible to have democracy function” and “disenfranchising the Democratic voters from having any choice in who becomes the Democratic nominee.”

His concern centers on the dual role the DNC is playing, as both an integral part of Biden’s campaign effort and as the referee of a nominating process that could result in Biden’s defeat at the convention. Party leaders have refused to schedule primary debates with candidates like Kennedy because Biden is an incumbent running for reelection, following a precedent both parties have used for decades.

But the Kennedy attacks also echo the broader focus of his campaign, which has centered on sometimes true, sometimes false and often unproven claims that powerful people are secretly lying about matters of great importance. Kennedy has presented himself as a truth-teller who is assiduous about correcting himself if he makes an error.

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[–] spider@lemmy.nz 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I have no use for RFK Jr, but the DNC's past treatment of Bernie may have come back to bite them in the ass.

[–] wtfeweguys@lemmy.whynotdrs.org 11 points 1 year ago

Came here to bring up the DNC burning Bernie. Hard to trust after that fiasco.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Considering Hilary lost to trump… it almost certainly did.

[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 year ago

Yuuuup. Constantly on my mind whenever this comes up. Not a good look.

[–] Astroturfed@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

I heard some Karen Q looking fat boomer talking about how it's not fair that Biden doesn't have to debate this dumbass in a line behind me the other day. Sitting presidents don't do a regular primary for their second term... like ever. Never have. These people are so insufferable in their willful ignorance. I'm praying no one who actually votes Democrat is a fully taking this asshole seriously.

[–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fuck this nutjob...all the Kennedys need to go the fuck away.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.one 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Incredibly dissapointing to see Kucinich involve himself with this whack-a-doodle.

Kennedy is delusional if he thinks either party would nominate anyone other than the sitting President for a 2nd term. The only thing that would block Biden would be medical issues.

Current polling (pretty sure some of these are from 2020 and mislabled as 2024.)

From fivethirtyeight.com:

State Biden Kennedy Other
Arizona 65 10 Williamson - 2
California 66 9 Williamson - 3
Georgia - - Harris 53, Buttigieg 25, Newsom - 8
Illinois 81 6 Williamson - 2
Iowa 50 9 Williamson - 7
Louisiana 59 16 Williamson - 2
Maine 25 - Sanders - 15, Harris - 8
Maryland 49 - Moore - 41
Massachusetts 28 - Sanders - 21, Buttigieg - 15, Warren - 12
Michigan 65 11 Williamson - 5
New York 54 4 Harris - 10, Sanders - 10
Ohio 60 15 Newsom - 6, Williamson - 3
Pennsylvania 71 17 Williamson - 5
South Carolina - - Harris - 26, Buttigieg - 14, Warren - 10
Tennessee 63 7 Williamson - 2
Wisconsin 49 9 Williamson - 3
[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 1 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Democratic presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has made denunciations of his own party a centerpiece of his campaign, attacking leaders with a blend of unfounded election-rigging allegations and real complaints about the disadvantages he faces in the nominating process.

“I am hopeful that a meeting with our Delegate Selection leadership team will prevent future instances of voters receiving erroneous information that could cause confusion about the equity of the Democratic nominating process.”

But the Kennedy attacks also echo the broader focus of his campaign, which has centered on sometimes true, sometimes false and often unproven claims that powerful people are secretly lying about matters of great importance.

After the 2016 election, Democratic reforms eliminated the power of unbound party officials, known alternately as “super” or “automatic” delegates, to vote on the first ballot if the outcome was contested.

“There has been no change to the party reforms enacted by the DNC in 2020, as required by enforcement of the 2020 convention resolution 1,” said Cohen, who is board chair of Our Revolution, a group founded by Sanders.

Kucinich modified his argument on Tuesday, after receiving Harrison’s letter refuting it, saying that his concern is that party leaders and elected officials would refuse to take pledged slots for Kennedy if he won primaries, possibly leaving empty seats at the convention.


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