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So I want to build a home server to use as a media server, and to back up my photos etc.

I am also currently doing an online course, and happen to spend some time at work as well as at home working on it. I don't like using Google where I can help it, but I find google docs really useful. So I'm wondering if there's an open source application that works essentially the same, but I could run off my own server? It would have to be web-based as I use Windows at work and can't install new programs :/

edit: Thanks everyone for your suggestions! I've got quite a few leads to follow now, it should be fun!

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[–] Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de 37 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] flashgnash@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Nextcloud is laggy and bloated, would not recommend

Good application but performance sucks

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It's fine if you don't set it up on a dogshit slow rPi and use postgres/redis in the docker compose. Every time I see this comment, it's because of configuration errors or horrible hardware.

Man, use Sharepoint on anything under a dual Xeon and see true lag.

[–] oranki@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 year ago

This is true, with a couple gigs of RAM and SATA storage Nextcloud is not at all bad. Assuming an instance with not that much simultaneous users.

It feels like slow sometimes, then after an hour with M365 at work it doesn't feel slow at all.

[–] Molecular0079@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is there a way to transition from MariaDB to Postgres? I used the mariadb / redis version of the docker-compose, but now I hear everyone says Postgres is better for performance?

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Create your users in the new install, move each users files to the created folders from your old install, and use the OCC addfiles command to enumerate the new files into the new db.

[–] NRoach44@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There is a db migration command that I used to do the same thing, was pretty painless, just needed to run that and then update the config iirc

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[–] vector_zero@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I ran it on a Dell EMC server blade and it was still awful. I couldn't help but think I was doing something wrong, because its performance was shockingly bad. I also couldn't get any of the office stuff to work acceptably, so I've given up on it for the time being.

[–] rambos@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What you mean bloated? It is laggy in web browser, but using client apps solve that problem. It would be awesome if its more snappy, but I couldnt find anything better for my needs. What do you use?

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[–] scottmeme@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Sounds like someone wasn't using redis

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[–] rastilin@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

I've seen owncloud merge files together. Like, you open one file and see data from another file inside it. That to me was a dealbreaker.

[–] Engywuck@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Docker OnlyOffice HW requirements are a bit... Odd?

[–] SomethingBurger@jlai.lu 8 points 1 year ago (4 children)

What, you don't have 6 cores and 12GB of RAM on your 2€/month VPS?

[–] Engywuck@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I have that on my RPi 50B! /s

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[–] mhz@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Your comment made me check that, and yeah, those requirements can be extreme for someone like me who look to use it for two pcs and a phone on a 6th gen intel nuc

[–] phrogpilot73@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I run the Community Edition of OnlyOffice documents server on my home server in Docker. My server has a Core i77 7700 and 32GB of RAM. And tons of other Docker containers. No issues.

[–] Engywuck@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean... My "servers" are a cheap VPS with 2 GB ram and a RPi 4 with 4 GB ram. Doubt any of them would be able to run OOCE decently.

[–] phrogpilot73@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was curious, so I took a look at what it was using. At idle, it sits at 927.4 MB, and 0.1% of my CPU (the 7700 is only a 4 core CPU). I opened and edited a Word document on OnlyOffice (I have it connected using the Nextcloud connector). It spiked to 1GB of RAM, and momentary spikes to 35% of CPU, and then back down to 0.1-0.2% of CPU. I'd say it's worth trying at least. Worst case scenario, you delete the Docker container if it's unworkable.

However, I think the Community Edition is lighter than advertised.

[–] Engywuck@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Oh, well. Thank you for your test. I may give it a try, then.

[–] lemann@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Those specs seem likely to be extrapolated from the resource usage of their SaaS solution 😳

Wouldn't be surprised if it actually ended up needing that though, some game servers for example will happily chomp down 10GB+ of RAM with just two people online doing nothing

[–] poVoq 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Or rather they want to discourage self-hosting in favour of their SaaS.

But the OO Document server will happily run with about 1gb RAM and small CPU use.

edit: ah this is about the full OO suite. Well most of that is written in bloated asp.net so no wonder.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 18 points 1 year ago

Try Nextcloud. You might need to setup nextcloud office (collabora)

[–] XpeeN@sopuli.xyz 17 points 1 year ago

In addition to other suggestions, there's Collabora Online

[–] vegetaaaaaaa@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] neo@lemmy.comfysnug.space 2 points 1 year ago

Some options on here that I wasn't even aware of! Nice!

[–] ptman@sopuli.xyz 11 points 1 year ago
[–] WeAreAllOne@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You might also wanna check yunohost.org . It's a well organized self hosting platform where you can install with few clicks and has huge amount of Foss apps, including office and media ones and Nextcloud that others suggested.

[–] robbiejuffermans@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

or if you don´t want to host it yourself: https://qlick.cloud and use Nextcloud which comes with Collabora Online installed.

[–] Father_Redbeard@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago

Seafile w/Collabora

I adore Seafile and this looks like a great option. I haven't been able to get it going on my instance yet, but I'm still learning all of this self hosting and FOSS stuff.

[–] Dariusmiles2123@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I’m using Onlyoffice and it works really well. Although I use it with kDrive from Infomaniak, I’m almost sure you can run it on your own server.

In fact I managed to ditch Google for everything but I can’t find a good replacement for Google photos which I’m not using anymore.

[–] Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

In fact I managed to ditch Google for everything but I can’t find a good replacement for Google photos which I’m not using anymore.

Immich is trying to be that, but it's still in heavy development.

Also here a comparison of multiple ones: https://docs.librephotos.com/docs/user-guide/features/

[–] Serinus@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Immich is working pretty well for me. Even the search does a decent job of recognizing the things in the pictures.

I'm not sure what Google photos has that Immich doesn't, and I've been using Google photos for years.

[–] Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The mobile app sometimes gets stuck while updating new photos, or just doesn't run the upload in background even though it's activated. The web app looks and feels great though.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

You do have to turn off battery saver for the background process. Phones tend to not like background processes. That would cause the behavior you're seeing.

Settings > Apps > App battery usage > Immich > Set to "unrestricted"

Also I have mine set to a ten minute delay, maybe that's why I haven't noticed. Maybe try adding a small delay to the load?

(Primarily I wanted a chance to delete photos before they uploaded.)

Thanks for the answer.

I remember looking at these but I think the fact that the pictures would be on my kDrive was also a problem.

Maybe with something like WebDAV it could work.

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago

After a lot of searching (granted, years ago) I landed on

Nextcloud with only office.

Nextcloud is pretty awesome. Open source, well supported, new versions like once or twice a year, aetric shittonne of plugins, its awesome.

Onlyoffice feels a lot like Microsoft office, but is online open source, and allows multi user editing, which was always a bit of a pain point with colabora.

[–] library_napper@monyet.cc 3 points 1 year ago
[–] Ascend-910@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

OnlyOffice?

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