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After his first game venture failed, Peter Molyneux started a baked bean export business. Commodore International mistakenly offered him ten free Amiga systems because they confused the baked bean company's name "Taurus" with a software company "Torus", and he used the hardware to create a database system for the Amiga, which was successful.

Which is just such a weird story.

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Due to the game's failure, Molyneux retreated from game design, and started Taurus Impex Limited—a company that exported baked beans to the Middle East—with his business partner Les Edgar.[5][6] Commodore International mistook it for Torus, a more established company that produced networking software, and offered to provide Molyneux with ten[5] free Amiga systems to help in porting "his" networking software.[2][7] Molyneux later said "it suddenly dawned on me that this guy didn't know who we were. I suddenly had this crisis of conscience. I thought, 'If this guy finds out, there go my free computers down the drain.' So I just shook his hand and ran out of that office."[2] Taurus designed a database system for the Amiga called Acquisition – The Ultimate Database for The Amiga[5] and, after clearing up the misunderstanding with Commodore, released the program to moderate success.

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[–] Indolence@lemm.ee 79 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I like how his reaction to a "crisis of conscience" is to continue to lie to the person, fraudulently take home all this super valuable technology, and then somehow use this bit of immoral bullshit to actually make something decent. It's like a microcosm of his whole character/career.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I like how his reaction to failure at game dev was to pivot to beans.

He is like a reformed jack and the Beanstalk, except this time he was immoral

[–] roguetrick@kbin.social 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

make something decent

But importantly, not what was asked for/promised.

[–] And009@reddthat.com 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Faked it till he kinda made it

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Fake it til you bake it (beans, that is)

[–] XTornado@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Waiting for the movie.

[–] MargotRobbie@lemm.ee 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Why is it that everything that happens on Lemmy revolves around Star Trek and beans?

[–] Comment105@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

The moment I read this comment, Julian on Trailer Park Boys started talking about beans on my second screen. (Yes, really, S8E2@15:30)

It must be a sign

Someone should make a movie about this, Matrix/Inception vibes.

[–] MargotRobbie@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Someone should make a movie about this

Are you trying to astroturf me into making this movie? Gasp. 😊

[–] Comment105@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, and not subtly either

[–] MargotRobbie@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Hoisted with My Own Petard", only in theaters July 21st. 😭

[–] Comment105@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

Look okay so I have the basic theory behind the film alright?

Eventually the crew of the Enterprise realizes that every planet with intelligent life they've ever visited has some kind of bean.

Every star system.

Every galaxy.


Background:

Long before the dawn of humanity (and every other civilization in the known universe), billions of seeding ships full of a variety of gene-modified ruggedized advanced beans were sent out through the cosmos.

Who sent the beans? The last civilization of a distant supercluster, who had known several millennia of intergalactic stability and connection (over thousands of galaxies, countless people). But in the last few centuries they had suffered a horrible war with something invading from the deep black. A majority of the galaxies were wiped out within the first few decades, but a distant arm of the supercluster fortified hard and held out. They desperately hoped to overcome it, but they had only succeeding in slowing it.

Witnessing so much annihilation, many knew this was the end of life here. There were attempts to salvage life, many generation ships were sent out but they always prematurely lost connection.

...

But they sent beans.

GOOD beans.

They established life in corners of the universe where life would have otherwise been impossible! They grew in the most fucked up conditions, there were beanstalks in methane oceans and spreading around supervolcanoes.

There were beans on Earth, before there were single-celled organisms. They established the foundation for life.

We're not here by divine decree.

We're here, because the aliens sent beans.


(Potential addition/twist: Fungus. Rarely found beyond Earth, almost always seen as a poisonous pest, humans being uniquely similar to fungi becomes an important plot point. Recently there has been a horrble fungal pest on Earth ruining beans in particular, but also attacking many other plants at an increasing and alarming rate. Human and animal fungal infections have gotten far more aggressive. Eventually; Mushroom zombies.)

(Spolier alert: The enemy from the deep black was fungal in nature. It feeds on worlds and builds mycelium networks through fibrils stretching through cold space off anything it can. Solid planets, asteroids, gas giants. Touching them, growing on them, eventually slowing them through a weak but persistent and increasing resistance. Growing like mold, but ever larger, always reaching for the network it moves through. (Only thing it can't touch are stars, but it can feed from them.) After consuming everything it can reach, it sends out spores and slowly dies as it has sapped all energy from its hosts.)

Thank you, that was fun 😵‍💫🥸

[–] CmdrShepard@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago

I just minutes ago finished up the new season of Disenchantment before coming across this post. The main character's name is Bean.

I also had a taco salad for lunch today and one of the main ingredients was... beans.

This is spooky.

[–] dbilitated@aussie.zone 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

i had no idea about the beans, it's been a confusing education and i won't do it again 😬

edit: perhaps it's bean a confusing education, i don't even know anymore

[–] roguetrick@kbin.social 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A long and storied career in running cons. He obviously went to Amiga first.

[–] dbilitated@aussie.zone 8 points 1 year ago

honestly the only thing that makes sense

[–] Owljfien@lemmynsfw.com 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I feel lucky that I played fable games as a kid and never heard of this dude so I just saw the games for what they were, no inkling of any broken promises to taint what were actually good games

[–] GONADS125@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (4 children)

The first game was incredible, but I thought the series went the way of the original Jurassic Park trilogy, where each subsequent release in the franchise was worse than the one before.

That's just my opinion tho.

[–] PraiseTheSoup@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

Fable suffered from the same issues as The Elder Scrolls, with the methodic removal of RPG elements and a general "dumbing down" of game mechanics with each iteration. The 3rd Fable game doesn't even have an inventory.

[–] CasualWindVane@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I tried playing Fable 2 recently and the motion blur made it literally unplayable. Can’t turn it off either

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

The I call franchises like that "Highlanders"

[–] Mnemnosyne@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

I found Fable 2 to be the best of the three. Gameplay systems were the most fun, character options the best, etc. The first one frankly had the major issue of gender locked character. Female protagonist should absolutely have been an option in that game.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

Project Natal/Milo was the grift that impreseed me the most...

Like the big brass balls needed to lie about having made Sentient AI

[–] RoyalEngineering@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Hey that’s the guy that made Godus.

Wish they finished the game because it was pretty fun.

[–] merridew@feddit.uk 17 points 1 year ago

Wish they finished the game because it was pretty fun.

Were we playing the same game?? When I played it in 2013 it was a tedious, RSI-inducing cow-clicker with lootboxes and "premium" gems, and according to Steam I played for less than an hour before abandoning it.

[–] taldennz@lemmy.nz 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I played the hell out of Populous and Populous II back in the day... Including a fair bit of multiplayer too - running a link cable between Amigas in our flat.

I wonder if I'd enjoy an upscaled port today as much as I did then.

[–] evanuggetpi@lemmy.nz 3 points 1 year ago

Powermonger did it for me.

[–] Deceptichum@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

Didn’t he make some spherical MP Tetris where you can like win the world if you found the centre?

[–] rubythulhu@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

molyneux is one of the weirdest names in game development. that boy makes lots of promises about how epic his new game is, and it always feels like the mcdonald’s happy meal toy version of whatever big thing he claimed it was.

Black&White 1/2 are the biggest examples of this. was proclaimed as some huge advancement of ai in games, and it was just “if you pet this giant cow every time it either eats its own poop or throws poop at your villagers, it will eat and throw its poop like crazy, desperate for more validation from you. meanwhile you keep using your giant literal hand of god to pick individual people up and throw them into the ocean because you’re god in this game” and then two hours in you’re bored and stop playing.

[–] CouldntCareBear@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Black and white was a huge advancement in ai in games.

[–] ThunderWhiskers@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

That's the wild thing about Molyneux. He doesn't come anywhere near what he promised and still makes a revolutionary game.

[–] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 year ago

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[–] reflex@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

After his first game venture failed, Peter Molyneux started a baked bean export business. Commodore International mistakenly offered him ten free Amiga systems . . . .

Molyneux's fate like, Get over here!

[–] mojo@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I just want a new Fable game already... Even if he doesn't own the IP anymore.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They announced one and it made everyone angry..

Usual reason. Protagonist was shown as a non white woman not wearing bikini

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

Shit like this is why I believe in fate.

[–] fbmac@lemmy.fbmac.net 2 points 1 year ago

Bullfrog was my all time favorite game company, they made:

  • Syndicate
  • Magic Carpet
  • Theme Park
  • Theme Hospital
  • Dungeon Keeper

After EA bought Bullfrog he moved to Lionhead and did the games people are criticizing on this thread. They are probably younger, and didn't see his games when he was at his peak

[–] cooljacob204@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Honestly I have never heard of this guy and suddenly today he is filling up my feed.

[–] dbilitated@aussie.zone 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

yeah I didn't know who he was so I looked it up. that paragraph just struck me as the weirdest origin story so I shared it.

trying to keep Lemmy interesting for the people

[–] PsychedSy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

You should've seen the articles in gaming magazines about him and his games. B&W and Fable mostly. Always these grandiose claims of whatever new tech was being built in then they'd release and be, well, none of that. Innovative sometimes, sure, but nowhere near what was promised. He was treated like a god and always got massive articles to build up hype. I wish I still had my old Maximum PC collection.