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[–] Early_To_Risa@sh.itjust.works 57 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Thank god. I've been annoyed by their toxic nonsense.

This is like when the one insufferable dude at a party leaves on his own, and now the host doesn't have to say something.

[–] formatc@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago (8 children)
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[–] glad_cat@lemmy.sdf.org 54 points 1 year ago (1 children)

One of them sent me a private message:

your grandfather was a nazi scumfuck that deserves to die

Nice people.

And my grandfather was not German, he lived in an actual communist country and hated it.

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

im very sorry to hear that. Can you share that message? Like a screenshot?

[–] glad_cat@lemmy.sdf.org 32 points 1 year ago (2 children)

But it's fine, it's not my first time on the internet.

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 45 points 1 year ago

they always forget that the soviet union was perfectly fine with nazi germany until nazi germany didn't share poland

[–] Ashyr@sh.itjust.works 40 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Never had the trash take itself out before. Feels good.

[–] Ertebolle@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago

In Communist China, trash takes out you

[–] SeaJ@lemm.ee 37 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Everyone that disagrees with them is a Nazi yet they actively deny the ongoing genocide of Uyghers.

[–] PM_ME_FEET_PICS@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Everyone who disagrees with them is a transphobe yet they had several posts agreeing with China's ban on Trans people, sterilization and murder.

[–] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 14 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Yeah I don't get that? Why are they constantly complaining about transphobia all the time? Yet I never see any.

[–] Bernie_Sandals@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

Because it's simply a cudgel to use against other sections of the left "Oh you haven't completely purged any and all bigotry from your movement? Guess we're gonna have to act smug and call you a piece of shit. "

And then "No no no, please don't look at Marxist Leninists track record on LGBT rights" or "No way, there's no genocide in Xinjiang"

[–] pleasemakesense@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

nothing makes sense or is consistent in their beliefs, it's a miracle they don't go into a spasm feom cognitive dissonance

[–] Astroturfed@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

They're basically using Fox new republican logic of screaming about how everyone who doesn't agree with them is persecuting them and is a bigot about spins wheel of things they like to call people.

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[–] Silverseren@kbin.social 36 points 1 year ago

So calling out tankies for their dictatorship support and defense of genocides made us the Nazis?

Sure, Jan.

[–] fsxylo@sh.itjust.works 35 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Can we still follow through with defederating them? This is definitely a ploy so they can start back up whenever they want.

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The admins don't have plans on defederating.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yah, saw that they locked down your vote on that, then made some sort of "why can't we all just get along" comment to rub it in.

And said something about the admin over there trying to work along with them on reducing the dunking. Yet that same admin is in another thread on hexbear assuring people that they are certainly not trying to reduce dunking in other servers, and saying basically "go for it".

Pretty silly. Glad my server has defed from the shitbirds.

[–] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

For anyone curious about what that admin said.

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[–] ruckblack@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago

Seems really fishy to me. TheDude defederated from Lemmygrad with zero community input, based on his own personal convictions. Now the admin team agrees to let in a rabid userbase of tankies, imaqtpie calls them a "valuable asset" in response to calls for defederation, and they actively get in the way of our attempts to organize a discussion/vote to defederate. Things feel different and not in a good way.

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[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 35 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Heh, good riddance. They’re SUPER fucking annoying, and I’ve seen pretty much zero examples of their userbase contributing in a meaningfully positive way to discussions on any instance, including their own.

[–] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 16 points 1 year ago

All I ever get from their instance are posts about them complaining about other instances complaining about them. Like damn, take a hint you guys.

[–] sanpedropeddler@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago

I have met about 3 normal reasonable people there, everyone else I've seen just barges in to every conversation and says meaningless annoying nonsense.

[–] danwardvs@sh.itjust.works 33 points 1 year ago

Am I reading this right that Hexbear is defederating with sh.itjust.works?

I’m pleased to hear the good news.

[–] Steeve@lemmy.ca 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lol this is the second time in a month they've done the "you can't fire me I quit" thing

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 year ago

and it won't be the last :(

[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Fucking lmao. Good riddance. This is at least the second time they've bailed before their shitty deeds can get them kicked out.

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

really doesn't take much.

it's so disheartening, like legitimately, how are these guys gonna cancel capitalism and destroy the west when they need to flee back to their safespace on the fucking internet.

[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

"Wh-what do you mean people are shitty to us when we're shitty to them?? This is [insert irrelevant accusation of bigotry here]! Critical support for Comrade Xi's Concentration Camps!"

People who are so eager to dish it often can't take it. Even in milder forms than the 4chan-esque trolling Hexbears use, like the horrible personal attack that is [checks notes] disputing that concentration camps are good.

[–] Quacksalber@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don't forget how Rrracist the community icon is. How dare we!

[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My God, if only we had taken our mockery of Comrade Xi from someone unproblematic, like Chinese nationals!

[–] fushuan@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I read 20 mins ago someone from hexbear complaining that calling Xi Winnie is racist because Winnie is yellow and Xi Chinese. Meanwhile, the meme was born in china, from chinese people. The west just adopted the icon that China's govenment banned in china, after its own citizens popularized it.

SOOOoo it must be racist yeah /s

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[–] ZodiacSF1969@sh.itjust.works 23 points 1 year ago

Lol, I knew they'd run away like the buncha pussies they are. Glad they aren't going to show up en mass anymore and derail threads with their bitching.

[–] ImFresh3x@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I only clicked on a few of their posts. One was literally a bunch of people saying Biden is a pussy for not drone striking 80k people at burning man. For people who really eschew civility like that they seem really sensitive in this post.

Delicate internet bullies.

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Keep fighting that good fight! You'll take down capitalism eventually... sometime... on an internet forum lmao

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[–] MonsieurHedge@kbin.social 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don't know how someone posts something that aggressively asshole-ish and then doesn't understand why everyone defederates them.

It doesn't kill to be at least slightly polite to people.

[–] Zaroni@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago

Adios 👋 you will not be missed

[–] nao@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

FYI, these super wide screenshots of text make it difficult to read on small/narrow screens (anyone using lemmy on their phone?)

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[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago

Yay! I was worried they would begin to discover smaller communities and spread outside of just their communities.

[–] Quacksalber@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago

They lasted only a couple of days. We outlasted them. o7

[–] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

https://hexbear.net/instances

Looks like they’re still federated with us. Is the instance list automatically updated?

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

They plan on defederating later

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