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[–] collinrs@lemmy.world 43 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Veganism is Dark Souls only because restaurants haven't learned how to git gud

[–] Chev@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Unless you are living in Berlin or Vienna. Than it's like "Story Mode/ Easy Mode"

[–] v4ld1z@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 year ago

And that's only touching upon the restaurant scene. Supermarkets carry everything you could ever want for a vegan diet and I live in a rather small-ish town in Germany (~80k). Probably even more insane in a city like Berlin or Vienna.

[–] riodoro1@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Thats so true. Thankfully asian restaurants usually have options because european cuisine sucks when it comes to vegans or even vegetarians.

[–] v4ld1z@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Although, you do have to watch out sometime. Egg and fish (sauce) could be used for some dishes without explicitly telling you about that beforehand.

Apparently that is a problem with kimchi, for example, where the animal-derived ingredients are not considered to be part of the "main ingredients", like nappa cabbage or radishes, so they can sometimes be forgotten when asked if it's vegan.

[–] riodoro1@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, same shit with genuine parmesan not being vegetarian because of animal rennet. Lots of cheeses are like this

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[–] vidumec@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

asians know their spices, you can eat a shoe if you spice it right.

european vegan food is a bunch of canned stuff mixed up in a bowl

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[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

Tell me you know nothing about European cuisines without telling me you know nothing about European cuisines.

Vegan is going to be a bit harder in the northern parts because butter but there's a fuckton of traditional naturally vegetarian dishes. Peasants back in the days had maybe a pig that they raised for food and another to sell, that's not a "meat every day" type of supply. Eggs are a different matter.

[–] NuPNuA@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

It seems like every where I go from restaurants to pubs in the UK have good veggie and vegan options these days, it's a far cry from when I went veggie eighteen odd years back.

[–] alottachairs@beehaw.org 32 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Ugh being vegan is too hard, i dont want to only be limited to the literal hundreds of edible plants, and centuries of plant based cooking techniques. let me just eat the same 3 baby animals and their excretions.

[–] Hawk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Veganism isn't only about food. No idea how they handle checking every single item to see if it's vegan. There's a lot of stuff that uses non-vegan stuff to be produced.

Cooking is easy, the hard part is knowing what exactly IS vegan.

[–] chetradley@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

There's an app called Fig that I use that makes it much easier. You tell it what you don't want to buy (there are presets for vegan, vegetarian, allergies, brand boycotts, etc.), and you take a picture of the ingredients list on a product. It'll tell you if it matches your preferences, or even if it's questionable.

[–] a_lemmy_user@discuss.online 3 points 1 year ago

Like most things, you learn as you go. I just learned my dishsoap isn't vegan, but I already have it, I'm not throwing it away now. I just wont buy it again. I'll be checking the next soap I buy. Each new thing needs to be researched. I'm just more comfortable with my choices than I was before.

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[–] moonsnotreal@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm probably gonna go vegetarian but I love dairy too much to go vegan

[–] Sheeple@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

That's fair. Cutting out meat is already making an intense impact and don't let purists tell you otherwise.

Besides, dairy is affordable. Meat isn't.

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Cutting out meat is already making an intense impact

i doubt it.

[–] moonsnotreal@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Beef costs 60 kg of co2 to produce 1 kg of meat. Fruits an plants still release carbon in production, but much less.

Source:https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidrvetter/2020/10/05/got-beef-heres-what-your-hamburger-is-doing-to-the-climate/?sh=3d3933715206

Edit:Grammar

[–] Sheeple@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

People underestimate just how intensely wasteful meat is, at least the average meat you find in a grocery store. There is a few exceptions like fishing it yourself but even that is getting unfeasible with how high demand is in the general population

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

first, i am suspicious of those numbers, and don't think they tell teh whole story.

even if they did, cutting out meat from my diet would have no impact at all.

[–] a_lemmy_user@discuss.online 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Your skepticism based on nothing. Giving them your money supports their negative impact.

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[–] Chev@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's ok. There are more than enough sources to learn about it. When you are ready, you are going to do it.

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

your snide condescension isn't persuasive

[–] Lazylazycat@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Are you open to being persuaded?

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[–] cnnrduncan@beehaw.org 9 points 1 year ago

If you live in a country like the USA you can already buy non-animal dairy! Unfortunately it's illegal where I live (thanks to the Green party) but a lot of dairy companies think it's the future as it has a fraction of the environmental impact and none of the cruelty associated with industrial cattle farming.

[–] cnnrduncan@beehaw.org 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Honestly being vegan with modern farming and food production techniques is pretty easy, especially when compared to being vegan in the past - though if al-Ma'arri managed to live into his 80s while being a disabled, atheistic vegan in the middle east in the late 900s/early 1000s AD then it probably wasn't exactly impossible!

[–] v4ld1z@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Absolutely true. We have everything we could want/need to live a healthy vegan life. Most people are just afraid of trying something different or are purposefully ignorant of the implications of a non-vegan lifestyle.

[–] a_lemmy_user@discuss.online 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

One of the things that made it hardest for me was being teased and picked on by my family, while I wasn't asking anything from them. I just didn't want meat with dinner. It was nonstop anytime I showed my face, and if I spoke I was spoken over and ignored. It made me very antisocial, and I didn't adhere to my values. Then almost twenty years later I did and I've gained a bunch of weight because I'm comfortable while I eat.

[–] v4ld1z@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I feel you. My SO and I have been vegan for around 3 years now and my family (mostly my older brother, tbh) keeps trying to get us to "cheat on veganism" for some super stupid reason. The worst has been when my brother said that he's "constantly" making compromises for us in terms of food, so it'd only be fair if we did once. 🙄

They're/he's probably just too insecure to give it a proper shot and to admit that what they're/he's doing might be morally wrong.

[–] a_lemmy_user@discuss.online 3 points 1 year ago

My in-laws are always doing that, too. They'll even spend money on things knowing fully we wont consume them, only to pout. We have a bunch of decoritive imported goods, lol.

[–] TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don't know, Dark Souls fans don't have to work that into every conversation they have.

[–] Sheeple@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

And dark souls is actually beatable by everyone if you put enough skill in.

Being Vegan is just plainly impossible depending on where a person lives (affordability and availability) and nutrient needs.

[–] seliaste@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Id argue that some person have disabilities that prevent interactions with the game

[–] germanatlas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

People were able to beat it without sound, blindfolded and on Bongo controllers

Surely there will be a way for anyone

[–] seliaste@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You are talking about people who dedicated so much time into this
At this point Id say that being vegan is easier than beating ds blindfolded for the average person. You overestimate the difficulty of having a plant based alimentation

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[–] DrChickenbeer@artemis.camp 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Definitely sharing this with my vegan gamer mother in law.

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[–] GeneralEmergency@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Painfully simple once you remove the noob traps?

[–] v4ld1z@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] SMITHandWESSON@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Nope, because 🥓🥩🍖🧆🍳🍳🥛🥛🧀🍔 🤤🤤🤤

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[–] at_an_angle@lemmy.one 8 points 1 year ago

I want the "Hello Kitty Island Adventure" difficulty.

[–] Lux@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Being british is the bloodborne

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[–] Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Ok but the more I learn about vegan recipes, the more I realize meat has been delicious enough to kept me ignorant of finer technique. Cooking and chopping has improved a lot in search if better vegan flavors.

I have some good cookbooks but on youtube I've found: Adam Ragusea, Marco Pierre White, Lucas Sin.

[–] wosh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

This joke format is the Dark Souls of laughing at something

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