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[–] Veraticus@lib.lgbt 72 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I went full Linux a few months ago and haven't looked back. Steam has superb support for basically everything I could want to play -- in some cases I feel like Linux actually performs better than Windows on the same hardware. I really appreciate the huge investment Valve made into making Linux gaming work.

[–] six_arm_spider_man@reddthat.com 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm in the process of swapping over now. Certainly some speed bumps after many years of Windows, but it's been kind of fun.

There are a few games I've hit that I can't play, but that why I'm dual booting for the near future. Linux as the daily driver and then back to windows when I have to.

[–] Veraticus@lib.lgbt 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah a lot of games with really strong anti-piracy just don't work at all. I was shocked that Roblox was one of the few ones that just wouldn't make the jump, for example, Grapejuice notwithstanding.

[–] HumanPerson@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Pro tip: You don’t have to deal with anti piracy if you pirate it.

[–] SaltyIceteaMaker@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

Oh the beautiful irony

[–] itsaerosphere@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago

Except Roblox is currently working on providing unofficial support to Wine (and by extension Roblox). See the post from one of their employee: https://devforum.roblox.com/t/why-did-roblox-stop-supporting-linux-users (Need to be logged in)

[–] Kizaing@lemmy.kizaing.ca 5 points 1 year ago

I did the same, I've used Linux off and on since like 2010 but this year is the first time where everything I want to do just works. I have a windows drive available just in case but so far I haven't had to use it

[–] HughJanus@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I really appreciate that I can buy first-party hardware from Valve and then install and run GoG games on it without any BS barriers or workarounds.

I got some GoG games on sale yesterday. Installed Heroic Games Launcher. Logged in. Installed the games. Clicked "add to Steam library" and boom, there they are in the Steam launcher alongside my other Steam games.

This is just such a breath of fresh air in a modern world consumed by proprietary bullshit. Valve is the anti-Nintendo.

[–] LukeMedia@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Only thing so far is other game launchers, and VR. I'm still dual booting, especially for VR.

[–] SaltyIceteaMaker@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For other game launchers use bottles

[–] LukeMedia@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not well versed with bottles, is there a good resource for that?

[–] SaltyIceteaMaker@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I honestly just watched a youtube tutorial

You probably can look into the arch wiki although if you don't use arch there may be some differences.

If i find the youtube video i will edit this comment and link it [here]

Alternatively here is how i did it:

•Install the bottles application (from the aur) •install proton ge runner •Create a new bottle •select proton ge as runner for said bottle •Download launcher installer (battle.net in my case) •run application > battlenetinstaller.exe (or however it's named)

[–] LukeMedia@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Using Fedora, I will look for some YouTube guides. Thanks for the info!

[–] Llewellyn@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

in some cases I feel like Linux actually performs better than Windows on the same hardware

What are those cases?

[–] SaltyIceteaMaker@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Im may not be the person asked but i can still give you 1 particularly impactful case: minecraft. Now Minecraft (java) has native linux support so this isn't valve's doing but i get a massive performance lift in minecraft. On my old pc on windows i had barely 50 fps. On Linux i had 80 that's 30 fps more with the exact same mods and settings

[–] radioactiveradio@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Windows actually can run the games faster if there's wasn't so many BS Microsoft ad services and antiviruses running in the background holding it back. I have a dual boot setup with a lite version of windows packaged by some Russian guy i don't trust and it runs things was faster than the normal MS windows.

[–] SaltyIceteaMaker@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I love that so many people rather use a sus version of windows than actual windows... on an unrelated note where would one aquire such a windows version? Asking for a friend

[–] theshatterstone54@feddit.uk 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just use chris titus' debloat tool, and don't bother with sus windows. Link: https://github.com/ChrisTitusTech/winutil

[–] SaltyIceteaMaker@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Does it also remove all the spayware? Sorry i mean "telemetry"

[–] theshatterstone54@feddit.uk 3 points 1 year ago

Yes, it removes the spyware. You can call it telemetry if you want.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

...but trust Microsoft even less, no doubt. Russian guy might be fucking with you, but MS definitely is.

[–] boonhet@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

I believe directx 10 games run better on dxvk or whatever, to the point that people recommend it on Windows for some games (GTA IV)

[–] jannem@fosstodon.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@Llewellyn
File system operations are often faster. This is in part due to Windows doing more; it has a more complex and more flexible permissions system.

Spawning threads and processes is also normally faster. Linux apps thinks nothing of spawning lots of processes with abandon, then have them opening and closing files all over the place. If you move it straight over to a Windows machine it will tend to run very badly as a result.

[–] entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago

In addition to the differences in permissions and kernel behavior you've pointed out, there's also a huge difference in the filesystems themselves.

Windows' default filesystem is NTFS. Linux's is EXT4.

EXT4 is significantly more modern (2008 vs 2001) and featureful (no fragmentation, handles small files much better, journaling, etc) than NTFS.

[–] GlitchyDigiBun@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've always wondered how good proton is when the hardware is less standardized than a console/pc hybrid. Can you really just slap in any modern x86 CPU and Nvidia Card and just go? How's driver handling? It's been years since I've used a linux desktop environment, so I'd be coming to it with navigational/file-handling skills in terminal alone.

[–] xuniL@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Should work out of the box, if you want a better experience I would definitely recommend an AMD gpu. Nvidia drivers are a huge mess on Linux since Nvidia actively refuses to support Linux

[–] ulu_mulu@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

What? You just have to install the proprietary drivers, they work perfectly fine. I get that if you don't want any proprietary stuff NDIVIA is not the best experience (opensource drivers are not good because of lack of support) but I'd hardly call that a huge mess.

[–] xuniL@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

If you want to use Wayland without having to tweak lots of things or use weird hacks then Nvidia isn't an option.

Also in my experience the open source drivers nowadays have better performance and support than the proprietary Nvidia drivers

[–] Chewy7324@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Not the open source nvidia drivers. They don't support reclocking so there's no way to get any useable results for gaming (and if not for gaming, why use an nvidia gpu anyway? Compute isn't supported in nouveau anyway).

Edit: typo

[–] xuniL@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was talking about Mesa not the Nvidia open source drivers. I should have worded it differently

[–] entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago

The open source Nvidia drivers are part of Mesa. You were talking about RADV and RadeonSI, the open-source AMD drivers in Mesa.

[–] miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

They're an extra thing you have to install, which makes them less plug and play than AMD, but a huge mess? It's far from being that bad nowadays

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not an extra thing that you have to install, an extra thing that you have to maintain, forever, instead of just letting the OS do it for you. Have you never borked your main machine with a flubbed driver update? Or found that, uh oh, you broke CUDA last time you upgraded and didn't notice until you tried to do some work?

[–] miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

No, I didn't. I installed the driver once, same with cuda, and I let the system updates to the rest.

And guess what, it actually does just work™

[–] harpuajim@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They did it! They finally surpassed the number of people with VR headsets!

[–] dudewitbow@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The number of vr headsets is actually pretty high. Iirc, the Quest 2 alone has 20m sales

[–] harpuajim@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's sold a ton but my guess is that the majority of people who bought it are using it as a standalone device

[–] dudewitbow@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I have a decently high end pc(12700k/4070) and i use it standalone more than plugged in myself

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 year ago

How many of those are connecting it to their PC in order for Steam to survey them?

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 year ago

The Steam Machine lives!

[–] Bogasse@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago

I really hope they will continue maintaining it and release new versions 🤞

[–] Privatepower42@fosstodon.org 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@yogthos I just got a Mac but I would love to have a laptop that has Linux and play triple AAA games.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

I picked up a Steam Deck and find it's pretty good for all my gaming needs.

[–] westyvw@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I took the steam deck on my last trip out of country to use on the flight.

There was a monitor, mouse and keyboard at my destination. I worked for several weeks and used the steam deck in desktop mode for me, and used remote desktop on it for work.

So I didn't have to bring my laptop anymore.

Awesome little device.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago

The fact that Valve decided to not lock it down and let you use it as a PC is hands down one of the best things about it.

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 year ago

1.96% Linux compared to 1.84% Mac.

I mean, it is technically more yeah.