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Protesters Blockade DNC Party Meeting, Demand Democrats Put Workers and Climate First - DeSmog (www.desmog.com)

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[–] Limonene@lemmy.world 29 points 3 days ago (2 children)

The DNC is holding a meeting at the ritzy $400-a-night resort over the weekend to choose a new party chair, a move that took on urgency after the Democrats took a beating at the ballot box in November. State party chairs Ben Wikler of Wisconsin, Ken Martin of Minnesota, and former Maryland Gov. Martin O’Malley have the most votes so far

Hey, I recognize that name. I sent a letter to Ben Wikler a couple months ago, demanding that the next DNC chair NOT be a neoliberal, and saying that I wouldn't offer any more support to any neolib candidates. This was based on the assumption that he would be the one representing me for the purpose of choosing the next DNC chair. I never really expected he could be the one selected for it. I hope he's as progressive as I've heard.

[–] silence7 15 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Ken Martin won the election

[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

This good or bad? What I read looks like we will get more of the same from Democrats.

[–] hypna@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I'm not sure the head of the DNC really has anything to do with the party platform. It's always seemed like more of a fundraising and coordination position. I dunno, maybe someone with an agenda could take the position and try to do something with it, but that doesn't seem like the norm. There doesn't seem to be much leadership happening anywhere else in the Dem party.

Anyone care to offer arguments that this election means anything?

[–] Benjaben@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago

I have a short and extremely compelling read that details (from someone who served in the role, albeit in an interim capacity) how important the DNC chair can be, by way of explaining how exactly the party was ratfucked in 2016 via money. Literally every American should read this:

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/11/02/clinton-brazile-hacks-2016-215774/

I got this from a Lemmy user recently and it very clearly spells out how exactly we got fucked in 2016 and why this position and also the fundraising is so massively, critically important!

[–] silence7 9 points 3 days ago

He tends to say the right kind of things, but thats not the same as being in a position to act and doing so.

[+] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca -38 points 3 days ago (6 children)

The fuck is the DNC supposed to do? You voted them out of power.

[–] nednobbins@lemm.ee 44 points 3 days ago (2 children)

They’re pretty clear about what they’re asking the DNC to do. It’s in the first paragraph of the article.

Before the election, people were told not to protest so the DNC wouldn’t lose power. Is there any time when are people allowed to tell their leaders that the party has lost its way?

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago

Is there any time when are people allowed to tell their leaders that the party has lost its way?

Of course not.

[+] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca -8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Before the election, people were told not to protest so the DNC wouldn’t lose power.

Maybe immediately before the election isn't the best time; but the ~3-3.5years prior to that where they are in power and actually able to effect change seems like a great time to loudly ensure they know what their constituents want.

As a third party observer; I've heard/seen lots of news about Republicans, what the party is doing, what the public wants, etc.

Democrats on the other hand; I see plenty about what the party is actively doing, but far less about what the public wants from them. There's certainly some; but there's just so much less volume that it's often drown out by the Republicans.

Make yourselves heard and do it when it really matters. Now you're at a severe disadvantage and honestly you'll be lucky if you get another chance without another civil war.

[–] MachineFab812@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Congratulations on missing the simple fact that every protest and campaign against America or Imperialism world-wide for decades has been as squarely aimed at the Democrats as much so as the Republicans. This goes doubly so for US domestic protests.

The US people and people worldwide have been very clear about we want. Stop apologizing for the manchurian party from behind your "third party observer" bullshit.

[–] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca -5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I'm not apologizing for anyone, I'm just telling you what I see; and that's democrats constantly being drowned out by loud republicans so much so that you now have a fascist dictator and his nazi boyfriend sitting comfortably in the highest office in the land, dismantling your democracy from within and almost nothing standing in their way.

[–] MachineFab812@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 3 days ago

Dems being drowned out by Republicans is the whole point of the DNC; Its their goal. Leftists have been anything but quiet about the fact that that is our problem.

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 46 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You need to stop finding excuses for the people who are bad at representing you.

[+] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca -16 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Not American, these people don't represent me.

My point is; why are you just now protesting the DNC, now that they are no longer in a position to actually change anything... Voted them out of power, then tell them to fix shit??? You're a bit late.

[–] silence7 33 points 3 days ago

They've been pressuring Democrats all along. This isn't their first action, and it won't be the last.

[–] JGcEowt4YXuUtkBUGHoN 22 points 3 days ago

They were voted out because they ignore their grass roots at the behest of corporate donors and genocidal maniacs.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 17 points 3 days ago

Speaking as an American, I'm stunned by the lack of political awareness most of my countrymen display.

Over one million people died under Trump and they voted him back in.

[–] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 8 points 3 days ago

Just a point of clarity here: The Democratic National Committee is NOT the exact same thing as the Democratic parties representatives, although there is a lot of crossover.

[–] Hugin@lemmy.world 26 points 3 days ago

Put someone in charge who better represents what the base wants. Exactly what this meeting is about. They are about to select the next DNC leader. Two establishment corporate Dems and one Bernie guy are the main three in the running.

If you want a better Democratic party this can be a big step in making that happen. After the huge loss they just has now is the best chance to get better leaders in power.

Odds are it's not going to happen but maybe this will change the mind of some of the people who are voting. Show them this group cares and will actually show up if you carter to them.

[–] knightly@pawb.social 19 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Elect Bernie as DNC Chair.

[–] cerement 13 points 3 days ago

DNC would rather elect Trump to chair than acknowledge Bernie in any way

[–] silence7 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

He is not running.

[–] knightly@pawb.social 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

If the party was smart they'd never have pushed him out of the 2016 campaign in the first place. Giving him the DNC chair would be the least they could do.

[–] liyunxiao@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 days ago

Maybe not promise to maybe consider climate goals that are a tenth of what developing countries are currently doing for climate change while hemming and hawing about even these bare minimum goals probably being unreachable so we should just expand oil production.

[–] chuckleslord@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

They lost because they sucked up to corporate interests and dropped any hardball angles. Plus, they didn't have a primary, because they wanted to have Biden run again cause he'd won last time. It was a piss-poor and frankly tone-deaf campaign. As Andrew Jackson proved, running against someone else isn't enough. You have to have an actual plan and vision to help people.