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Sorry for the headline. I don't know why they don't just say it's Vivek Ramaswamy.

To that end, I will accept Russian control of the occupied territories and pledge to block Ukraine’s candidacy for NATO in exchange for Russia exiting its military alliance with China. I will end sanctions and bring Russia back into the world market. In this way, I will elevate Russia as a strategic check on China’s designs in East Asia.

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[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 276 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (19 children)

Never thought I'd see somebody worse than trump so quickly.

he also wants to remove federal regulatory and law enforcement agencies. Including, the IRS. Whose job it is... to you know... pay the government's bills...

[–] Foggyfroggy@lemmy.world 201 points 1 year ago (7 children)

They are doing it on purpose. He’s 38 years old, no one is letting him near the presidency. But these over the top statements are intended to make some other candidate look like not the craziest guy in the room.

[–] yokonzo@lemmy.world 97 points 1 year ago (6 children)

You know that’s actually not the craziest hypothesis

[–] phoenixdigita1@kbin.social 58 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (9 children)

I was watching a review of the GOP debates by some US political junkies just last week and one of the hosts said that Vivek knows he doesn't have a chance but is using this presidential run to get exposure for his planned foray into right wing talk show host. Something like Tucker or Alex Jones.

Great bang for your buck with free news media advertising by pretending to run for president and saying crazy stuff.

After hearing he wanted to start his own right wing talk show his character and mannerisms made so much more sense.

Apologies for the facebook link (They start talking about him around the 14 min mark and the comment on his talk show plans is at 20 mins)
https://www.facebook.com/abcplanetamerica/videos/3482537835297757

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[–] protist@mander.xyz 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

More likely he's doing this on purpose to gain notoriety and wealth through media presence

Also he's trying to evade lawsuits

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[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 23 points 1 year ago (9 children)

It's like "conservatives" are actually compelled to make the worst, most unethical choice, every time...

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[–] fubo@lemmy.world 120 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Is this guy campaigning for American votes, or a Russian paycheck?

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 63 points 1 year ago

Yes. And failing that, yes.

[–] Foggyfroggy@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Neither, I think his job is to absorb the negative attention so T looks less unhinged or maybe separate off the crazier magas.

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[–] shectabeni@sh.itjust.works 99 points 1 year ago (1 children)

At least they don't even try to hide how much they are in bed with Russia anymore.

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[–] jcit878@lemmy.world 83 points 1 year ago (3 children)

how anyone cant seem through this blatent foreign agent acting against your country is beyond me. watching in amazement from down under

[–] mriguy@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

Anyone with two functioning brain cells does see it. Unfortunately, there is an entire political party for people who don't.

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[–] not_that_guy05@lemmy.world 76 points 1 year ago

Russia can't even control it's own military with success, how the fuck are they gonna challenge China and put them on check. Lol this fuckin puppet has the whole arm in him.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 65 points 1 year ago (2 children)

US politicians are surprisingly easily bought by foreign adversaries

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 37 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The worst thing about American political corruption is exactly how cheap these whores are.

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[–] Clbull@lemmy.world 63 points 1 year ago (5 children)

How the actual fuck are the Republicans not getting hammered in the polls?

Americans have been brainwashed for decades with 'communism bad' propaganda, so it seems mind-boggling that Republicans are so willing to give the former Soviet Union any control over Ukrainian soil. Part of the reason we've been fighting back against Russia's invasion with sanctions and equipment donations has been because they've been NATO's ideological enemy for decades.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 45 points 1 year ago (9 children)

I've actually seen a shirt that says "I'd rather be Russian than Democrat."

[–] gammasfor@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

At this point being a Republican should be considered synonymous to being part of a conspiracy to commit treason and be treated as such.

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[–] PatFussy@lemm.ee 63 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Dont give this stupid ass a platform. Just dont talk about him. All the negative press is what gave credence to Trump by the anti crowd.

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[–] TwoGems@lemmy.world 50 points 1 year ago

Of course, because Republicans get money from Russia to betray their country. What's sad is that it doesn't take much.

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 49 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We're not seeing this motherfuckers tax returns.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

I cant read cyrillic anyway.

[–] AshMan85@lemmy.world 47 points 1 year ago (3 children)

sounds like a russian asset

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[–] Four_lights77@lemm.ee 45 points 1 year ago (3 children)

These debates seem more and more like massive focus groups. They get the non-contenders to say preposterous things with two goals: see what sticks and propagate lies.

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[–] FarceMultiplier@lemmy.ca 44 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Who the fuck does he think is. The US has zero rights to do anything like this.

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[–] brave_lemmywinks@lemmy.world 43 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I'm not into US politics other than the basics, but let me tell every American that the consequences of something like this happening will be catastrophic, and then you'll "fight" China alone, if not with more opponents.

Trump was already a huge liability to European foreign policy, if it happens again, the EU will dissociate from the US, weaponize and go nuclear. The eastern countries will enter direct conflict with Russia eventually (sooner than later), and the whole continent will get dragged into the war. At the end who ever is left will not support the US, actively be against it, and have nuclear weapons.

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[–] Nightwingdragon@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago (10 children)

How fucking retarded is this guy?

Russia would make all the promises in the world until the US pulls all its support and resources from Ukraine. Once Ukraine falls, Russia would just tell the US to go fuck themselves and ally with China anyway.

Not that this whack job has a chance of becoming President and actually trying this shit, there's a less than 0% chance of it actually working.

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[–] LEDZeppelin@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can we give this turd to Russia instead?

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[–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemm.ee 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] nehal3m@sh.itjust.works 32 points 1 year ago

Luckily it’s not his to give.

[–] Grant_M@lemmy.ca 30 points 1 year ago

Never vote Conservative/Republican/Tory or whatever name these RW crazies choose.

[–] odium@programming.dev 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Guys like Vivek don't care about history because it's not new or exciting.

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[–] UristMcHolland@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago (4 children)

And why exactly are we giving fascists a platform?

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[–] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 28 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Vivek Ramaswamy is one of the more unappealing politicians I’ve seen in quite some time… which means that he will likely rocket up the GOP polls

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[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 27 points 1 year ago

EU sanctioning the fuck out of the US in 3, 2, 1...

[–] Red_October@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This idiot watched Trump sucking off the Russians and thought that was why he was popular, so he's gonna go ahead and double down.

How the Republicans of all people have managed to turn into the PRO RUSSIA party I can hardly fathom. For all their rampant flag waving and mindlessly spouted "Support our troops" drivel, they'd have been the last ones to kowtow to Moscow. In the end of course, I Do understand. It's their fanatical worship of Trump, the idea that anyone who doesn't adore Inmate Number P01135809 is just a traitor, and He of course was willing to give the Russians anything and everything they wanted to keep that kompromat from being released. So, Republicans have just internalized the idea that Russians Good, just because Inmate P01135809 said so.

And of course because Democrats have been supporting anti-Russian policies. Republicans would rather be traitors than collaborate with the Democrats.

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[–] TheJims@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

This is what a Russian Muppet looks like… naturally he’s a Republican.

[–] LeFantome@programming.dev 22 points 1 year ago

“ in exchange for Russia exiting its military alliance with China”

OMG, so funny. That is even more unlikely than this tool becoming POTUS and I am not sure that would happen even if the rest of them were tragically killed.

[–] nostradiel@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

If he thinks that Russia will break their military cooperation with China, he is even more stupider that Trump and Biden combined..

[–] theodewere@kbin.social 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

how many Russian agents they got in that party now

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[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

"I'll suck Putin's dick so hard it will make ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆ blush"

-This guy

[–] finickydesert@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why is he backing a losing side?

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago

It$ hard to really $ay why anyone doe$ anything, maybe he really think$ that $tability in europe can only be reached by conceding territory to the mo$t agr$$sive and dangerou$ belligrrant. Who know$.

[–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I see Vivek Ramaswamy is gunning to be the Neville Chamberlain of the 21st century. Giving Putin what he wants is like trying to appease Hitler. Putin's expressed ideology is for Russia to conquerer Europe. He is not going to stop with the Donbas region or Ukraine. The best thing for everyone, including the Russian people, is for Russia as we know it to collapse into smaller countries.

This video by Kraut does a good job explaining Putin's ideology.

Not to mention by supporting Ukraine, the US is sending a clear message to China that they will be met with force if they try invade Taiwan. It doesn't benefit anyone other than Russia and China to work with them and give them what they want. Dictatorships are always going to be incentivized to backstab democracies. Democracies are going to champion human rights, where as other dictatorships will look the other way. So no matter how hard you try to separate Russia and China they are always going to be incentivized to work with each other.

And the little cooperation between China and Russia is not worth backstabbing Ukraine over.

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