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[–] pepperprepper@lemmy.world 10 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

They want Trump to get the credit :/

[–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 5 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

No, Grivir and Smotrich want all of Palestine. They want to slaughter the populace and steal their stuff. They have been very open about this.

[–] andrewrgross 2 points 52 minutes ago

Yeah, this.

[–] PyroNeurosis@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

If those in charge don't want a ceasefire, what point is there in one? Won't hostilities resume just as soon as eyes are off them?

[–] andrewrgross 4 points 48 minutes ago

First, I think it helps to share an old adage:

Two Jews: three opinions.

We're famously discursive. In any situation it should be assumed that Israelis are in a tense debate about nearly everything.

The families of remaining hostages in particular want a ceasefire because its a prerequisite for returning loved ones (or at least rematriating their remains). Many people also recognize that the war has no honorable or defensive purpose and is tearing apart society, fomenting regional tensions, destroying support on the world stage, and placing a huge toll on reservists and their families.

You are correct, though: as long as Netanyahu and allies are in power, every other voice is a reed in a monsoon flood.

[–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 8 points 4 hours ago

Some in charge want one but Smotrich and Grivir do not. These guys want to steal the entirety of the lands