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[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 160 points 2 weeks ago (12 children)

No way, tell me that isnt real. I remember hearing a patent about being able to deliver ads over hdmi but dont tell me it actually got implemented.

[–] carpelbridgesyndrome@sh.itjust.works 168 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (5 children)

That ad is not over HDMI. Its a smart TV it inserts the ad on its own.

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 57 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Just dont give the thing internet access then...

[–] sploosh@lemmy.world 33 points 2 weeks ago (10 children)

That works unless your neighbor had unsecured WiFi. The TVs will phone home in any way they can.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 22 points 2 weeks ago

Setup your own WiFi with the same SSID and block all ports. Bonus points, it will drive your neighbors crazy and maybe get them to up their security stance.

[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago

Open the TV and unhook the Wifi antenna then

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[–] TheOctonaut@mander.xyz 41 points 2 weeks ago

Why would this need "deliver ads over HDMI". It's on the telly, ie the HDMI signal has already been transmitted and now the TV itself is overlaying web-derived images in one corner, the same way it will overlay the guide or whatever when you open it.

[–] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 32 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I totally believe this kind of thing could happens, but I’d expect broader outrage if it were.

When I set up my LG tv it wanted to show promoted content on the Home Screen and the screensaver.

I never connect my TV to the internet. People jerk saying they add wireless modems to them but in reality they don’t have to, most prime leave all the telemetry and “AI” features enabled.

[–] kitnaht@lemmy.world 45 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (5 children)

Look up Amazon's "Sidewalk" network. They don't need your internet. They have your neighbors internet.

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[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 16 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

picture looks like a 'shop. look at bottom right corner of tv.

but, it's inevitable. corporate greed knows no limit, knows no boundaries.

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/04/hdmi-customized-ad-insertion-patent-would-show-rokus-ads-atop-non-roku-video/

[–] Ragdoll_X@lemmy.world 36 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Isn't that just the plant blocking part of the TV?

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[–] ddash@lemmy.dbzer0.com 30 points 2 weeks ago

It's a plant blocking the TV. If this is edited it is actually done really well.

[–] kabi@lemm.ee 13 points 2 weeks ago

I'm not sure the picture is edited, but in either case, it would be a lot easier to paste it onto a screencap of the game and open that full screen on the tv...

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[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 98 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Not as bad as this, but when I moved to a new town I got a free big TV with my new ISP. I was going with that ISP anyways so a free 4k HDR TV on top was a nice bonus.

I wish I had gotten some other bonus. Viewing angle is atrocious and it is impossible to get rid of the input lag (no there isn't a gaming mode or similar) so no games with precise timing can be played.

So now we have a big living room TV that is too good to replace with something better but bad enough to be a little bit annoying.

[–] BananaTrifleViolin@lemmy.world 65 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It really doesn't sound too good to replace? It sounds like you got free junk, and haven't actually bought a TV yet?

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[–] slumlordthanatos@lemmy.world 91 points 2 weeks ago (11 children)

Instead of buying a TV, look for a digital signage display. It's a TV, but with none of the "smart" crap on it.

Alternatively, just don't hook your device up to the internet.

[–] renzev@lemmy.world 115 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (10 children)

This is good advice, but I really wish we lived in a world where consumers could bond together and get laws passed that make this type of crap illegal so that buying TV's (or any type of appliance for that matter) didn't involve having to do research on weird non-consumer hardware just to have a nice experience.

EDIT: some morons in my replies keep on saying shit about "voting republican" and We Do In OtHeR CoUnTRiEs. I'm not american, I don't live in america, and I cannot remember the last time I set foot in america. Shut the fuck up, nobody asked you.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 50 points 2 weeks ago

In other words, you wish we lived in a democracy instead of a plutocracy. 'Cause that's exactly how it's supposed to work. This thread is squarely about the FTC failing to do its goddamn job, because this should not be legal.

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 81 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Oops, stepped on another $1200 landmine did you? Should have researched where you put your foot. Everyone knows this neighborhood is littered with landmines. No, there's nothing we can really do about it except hand out these exhaustive charts and navigation tools. Of course they need to constantly get re-updated and are themselves periodically hijacked by the pro-landmine industry to turn into a second-tier grift. But that just means you have to research who you research for your TV research.

Don't worry, you'll get it eventually. God gave us two legs for a reason.

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[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 75 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

First rule of smart TVs: if you really have to buy a smart TV, then never connect it to the internet!

[–] Zacryon@feddit.org 21 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

I've read at some other post that some smart TVs won't work at all if you don't connect it to the internet.

Read with caution, I haven't verified this.

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[–] JovialMicrobial@lemm.ee 16 points 2 weeks ago

I lobotomized our TV after making the mistake of connecting it to the internet when we first got it.

The ads slowed down the menu to switch sources so much it actually angered me. No more internet for you, you get to be a dumb tv forever now.

[–] mlg@lemmy.world 59 points 2 weeks ago (11 children)

Looked at the CES reveals and aside from some minor improvements, its nothing but overloaded AI crap.

Even on TVs from 10 years ago, the first thing you had to do was turn off the stupid auto frame generation, smoothing, lighting, and other effects so you can actually enjoy your content in original detail and correct FPS.

[–] Cataphract@lemmy.ml 23 points 2 weeks ago

It took me way too long to figure out what was going on with those settings. One of my relatives tv's was like this back in the day and at first I thought it was just their "HD" setup which made me completely write off getting anything HD because of the fake look like a soap opera. It wasn't till I was gifted a blue-ray player that I realized their tv just had horrible "enchancement" shit.

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[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 46 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

If that's real, then it's full refund or terrorism upon both the vendor and manufacturer.

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[–] synapse1278@lemmy.world 43 points 2 weeks ago (20 children)

My current TV has started to die. It's developing a purple spot that starts to be very distracting. I am not excited about researching a new model that doesn't pull out this kind a shit on me. I don't intend to ever connect it to the Internet. My current TV is nothing more than a big display for my NVIDIA shield TV and the next one will be the same.

[–] theangryseal@lemmy.world 32 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Sceptre makes a decent dumb tv.

I have one. I like it. 4k. Good enough for me.

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[–] eluvatar@programming.dev 25 points 2 weeks ago

This is where I would go to research a new tv https://www.rtings.com/

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[–] Rubanski@lemm.ee 37 points 2 weeks ago

Verification can when?

[–] glitchdx@lemmy.world 34 points 2 weeks ago (21 children)

I just bought this dumb tv. Couldn't be happier.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01CJV6722

It's not a good tv, but it's the biggest one I could fit on my desk and it has absolutely no "smart" features.

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[–] RedditWanderer@lemmy.world 33 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I needed a second t.v for the basement and i decided to just not buy one.

I had an old mini projector I repurposed and there a nice tv upstairs/phones for anything else.

Cant wait till "minimal" stuff becomes the trend.

[–] Prunebutt 19 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Joke's on you! Projectors get this "smart" bullshit, too!

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[–] archomrade@midwest.social 20 points 2 weeks ago

I'm getting from context that this is a smart tv displaying an advertisement, but what the fuck is it even advertising here? A baseball game? Why is the countdown to-the-hour? Why does the player look like a drawing instead of a photo? Why is it specifically that player and not just 'dodgers game tomorrow!"..? It almost looks as if it's an in-game notification for an MLB-Manager game.

If it were a burger-king commercial I'd be upset, but the inscrutability of this as an ad at all actually infuriates me.

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Anybody else have a weird level of fixation on the baseball player and the game character being in the same pose? Like, "maybe it's watching" kind of fixation?

[–] Early_To_Risa@sh.itjust.works 35 points 2 weeks ago

I'd like to be exactly this high, please

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

So smart TVs are now smartass TVs?

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[–] twinnie@feddit.uk 17 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

I can’t believe this is real. I’ve just bought a relatively cheap Samsung smart TV and it’s got nothing close to this. I would hardly even say it’s got adverts since it’s mostly just recommendations from my apps in the same way they all do now, I don’t think I’ve actually seen it try to sell me anything or get me to watch something that wasn’t free.

Who the fuck would buy a TV like this? If a company was going to introduce on-screen ads like this they’d start really small.

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[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 16 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Nothing to research. They're all the same bad or will get bad in the foreseeable future. Only thing that matters is the screen technology and the specs of your external media center.

[–] Trollception@sh.itjust.works 20 points 2 weeks ago (10 children)

My LG has none of this. Any advertising/ai can be disabled as can the network itself.

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[–] 1ns1p1d@lemm.ee 16 points 2 weeks ago (12 children)

Is there an open-source version of Google TV and similar smart TV software? I feel like i read about one quite recently.

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[–] magnetichuman@fedia.io 14 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I will be very sad when my 16 yo Sony Bravia TV dies

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