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[–] SrEstegosaurio@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Oh god no.

The fediverse is not suited for E2EE IM.

If you require secrecy, anonimity or privacy, use something dessigned for it.

[–] altair222@beehaw.org 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Isn't matrix technically fediverse?

[–] SrEstegosaurio@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Matrix is a federated IM platform. But it does not use ActivityPub, they use their own protocol.

I have mixed feelings regarding matrix.

[–] junbird@livellosegreto.it 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

@SrEstegosaurio A bit OT, but what's not to like about Matrix? I'm curious as I was seriously considering to try it out.

[–] XpeeN@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 years ago

For me, the biggest turndown is the way they handle metadata

[–] altair222@beehaw.org 3 points 2 years ago

Kinda makes sense yeah

[–] serenity@jeremmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Did you read the whole article and the comments below it ? The blog author is not a beginner programmer and wrotes that when the source code of this can be improved, people should do so.

[–] jakob@lemmy.schuerz.at 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

As i often say:

Each Node has to bring it's own xmpp-server. When you log in to your mastodon, friendica or what else, you are instantely logged in in this xmpp-server.

The fediverse-id is also the xmpp-jid.

In the contact you can just click on "chat" and you will be connected with this xmpp-account.

Conversejs or jsxc bring such small-chat-windows as you know from facebook.

The roster is your contact-list.

AND conversations allows you, to add your fediverse-chat-account as additional account... so you can use it on your smartphone without being logged in in the fediservice.

Xmpp has a small footprint. So it's ideal. Mucs are also possible for groupchats.

If it is preconfigured, and easy to install (look at snikket!), there is instantely a secure chat in the fediverse.

[–] beta_tester@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Why XMPP and not matrix?

I know far too little about the implementations to judge about it.

[–] guojing@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Matrix server seems hard to run with very high resource usage. Xmpp is very lightweight. Not sure if xmpp federates.

[–] jakob@lemmy.schuerz.at 3 points 2 years ago

Xmpp is THE federating chat... since more than 20 years...

[–] MadScientist@sopuli.xyz 7 points 2 years ago

i know it has many flaws, but wouldn't a drop-in implementation of matrix be perfect here? at the very least better than making your own protocol

[–] imgprojts@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

My take away from the headline is "hint hint, go to co-host" LOL. See you all new kids trying new things! But bye! I'll be here if you need anything that I can't help with.