oh no! imagine all the seedy porn studios in Florida that will likely be taking their tax revenue somewhere else.
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I have two reactions
- Oh no, anyway. VPNs exist
- This is scary, these Verification Laws are killing the internet even more painfully than the corporate takeover.
The Florida Oblast will turn into the f'n People's Republic of China.
There will now be over 115 million Americans affected by this growing ban. Now over one third of the population, yes a full 34.4%, will not be able to access pornhub in their state without using a VPN. And we all know they are coming for the VPN next.
The real issue is that most people dont know how to use vpns. So they just go to sketchier websites.
"Land of the free"
They should really look at changing their national anthem.
And more importantly, these laws are written so broadly that these age verification laws can be applied to any website that the state government doesn't like whether they host porn or not. CNN posts article about killings in Gaza? That's not appropriate for children so ID needed. Left-wing forum that's critical of the local Republican government? Well that's not appropriate for children either so we'll need to see the IDs of everyone that has ever visited the site.
I hope these laws get overturned sooner than later but I won't hold my breath.
CNN posts article about killings in Gaza?
The only killings in Gaza CNN would post about is IDF and hostage deaths.
I literally thought the same thing while writing it, but still wanted to use a mainstream source as an example.
They're welcome to try, but I seriously doubt they will be successful
Yeah just about every company uses VPNs too.
They will just use XVideos.
While Pornhub pulling out of Florida (US) may not be the end of the !world@lemmy.world, the underlying trend of pornography criminalisation for "modesty" can easily translated into sexual control and control of sex.
As we all know by now, sexual control is gendered against women and queers, racialised, et al.
Control of sex on the other hand is well substrated in Anti-Choice or bodily autonomy-denying discourse as well as population control for classist, racist etc. motives.
Since when is Florida scared of sex? Since it hates minorities. (IMO)
It's much broader than sex though:
Florida’s law is HB3. The law is broad. It requires a website that provides material that is “harmful to minors” to provide a means of “anonymous age verification” to its minors. What does it mean for material to be “harmful to minors?” According to the law any material that “the average person applying contemporary community standards would find, taken as a whole, appeals to the prurient interest.”
I guarantee this will be used (or at least attempted) to silence political speech critical of local governments. It's far too easy to come up with even the weakest justification for why something isn't appropriate for children and Republicans have an army of useful idiots ready to parrot their rhetoric and convince everyone else who isn't paying attention to what's happening.
further, paradoxically, denying access to porn puts women in more danger. most porn consumers will probably just get a vpn and roll with it. but enough of them will translate their frustration into violence against women for it to be a problem. we know this because we've seen it before. sex work is degrading, dehumanizing, and exploitative, but banning it consistently makes it worse, not better, for the people most endangered by it.
Conservatives love losing freedoms.
Headline is 10/10.
I mean, it kind of writes itself, but yeah. Sometimes the easy ones are, in fact, the best ones.
First time I heard it as a joke was from George Carlin discussing how wars are inherently phallocentric.
The milf and step sister markets are about to take a hit
It’s probably a good thing not to put your dick in anything from Florida.
Republicans hate the free market
I mean, yeah, otherwise they'd want regulations that prevent it from being manipulated by individual rich people, but they have always been against anti-monopoly regulation and other protective regulations.
"Free market" doesn't mean free from regulation, it means free from interference in the supply and demand of the product. But there's still a need to prevent other forces from interfering with supply, including from those participating in the market. If a single company prevents any competition from entering the market, that is what's not "free market".
Pornhub should come out with their own vpn service as a fuck you to the gop. Because while they may not “service” certain states, I’d bet those citizens still use pornhub and other sites.
They sort of did awhile ago with VPN hub. I haven't heard about it in awhile though. I wonder if they're trying to distance themselves from it
It's good to be a VPN service these days. I bet business is up.
Don't want them to ban vpns
Just curious, but how would that be enforced?
You could ban them from mainstream marketplaces. If you remove them from the apple store and play store, they're gonna struggle, even if you still have F-Droid. If they ban hosting source code, maybe some federated git servers and maybe even gitlab will hold strong, but github will roll over like an obedient dog because it's owned by Micro$oft. Some people will fight for it, but if VPNs lose 75% of their revenue, we will all suffer.
I honestly don't know enough about it but I'm sure there's a way, maybe get isp's to flag traffic going to known vpn servers and fine them if they connect users or something like that?
Why, is it impossible or difficult to enforce?
Why, is it impossible or difficult to enforce?
Not sure, that's why I asked out of curiosity. But I would assume so; it's very easy to get WireGuard setup on a Raspberry PI or just about any SBC. For example, you could setup a SBC with a usb WiFi adapter, travel to a state where VPNs aren't banned, connect to public WiFi and with a little additional config (changing ports), you're good to go.
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Good.
So crazy how floridians are able to get legislation like this passed, but can't do anything to help their legions of hicks living in trailer parks.
The legions of hicks love this kind of virtue signaling oppression and don't mind that they're stuck in a trailer park. Priorities.
Those legions of hicks see living in a trailer as a badge of honor when it comes to Republican policy even if it harms them. Contradictory to this, they also view it as the fault of Democrats, taxes, and regulations on businesses for why they're in that situation. It's pure cognitive dissonance but good luck convincing them of that.
They generally believe Democrats in office are bad for the economy, but they'll be damned if they take government handouts and make the deficit worse.
Neither are very true, but they win elections.
It doesn't even manage to block access to porn. For god's sakes you'd have to block the entire Internet.
I probably shouldn't say that or they'll get ideas. It's all performative.
"Welcome to the club." - a Texan
But it's literally the penis-shaped state!
The penis is flaccid.
So it can finish on FL's face?
If I found myself in Florida, I'd pull out before I finish too.
Does anyone know if something changed with PH in Texas? It used to require a VPN and had a notification of the new Texas age verification law, but now I’m back to being able to browse it without a VPN.
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