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Debate rages over police marching at Sydney Gay and Lesbian Mardi Gras ahead of vote (www.abc.net.au)

submitted 2 weeks ago by Aussieiuszko@aussie.zone to c/world@quokk.au

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Pride in Protest has consistently campaigned for the exclusion of NSW Police from the parade citing a culture of homophobia within the force and an adversarial attitude towards unsolved gay hate deaths.

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[–] swab148@lemm.ee 36 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

NO COPS AT PRIDE

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

AND NO COMPANIES AT PRIDE

[–] GreeNRG 0 points 2 weeks ago

AND NO LIONS AT PRIDE

[–] quinceyBones@lemmy.zip 31 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Sounds reasonable to me. Abusers shouldn’t be allowed to march with their victims.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago

If the local LGBT community feels hostility towards the local police, they should be excluded. Simple as. When the local police cultivate positive ties with the LGBT community, the LGBT community can let them back in.

[–] Cypher@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Police should never have been allowed to march to start with.

[–] Doom@ttrpg.network 1 points 2 weeks ago

agreed

[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 weeks ago

See, I'm always torn about police showing up to pride events officially, with one side being for the exact reasons given in the article. The other side is that human connections can eventually overcome biases and prejudice.

Meaning that even if the cops there are pricks (and I believe it when the local community says it's so), maybe them being present, being familiar with the local community can end up as a net positive eventually. The problem is the eventually part. If they've been marching in the parade officially, and it hasn't made a major shift yet, how long does the community have to tolerate their presence?

It's the question of how much fucking effort does a disenfranchisement segment of the population have to keep putting in for basic respect? Why are they having to put up with the bullshit of having to be ambassadors and accept what amounts to invaders in what's supposed to be a celebration?

I don't have a good answer. So I default to the local community having the right to make the decision, and the rest of us (or even just me) support that decision.

[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world -5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

I don't get it, is there some proof that gay officers are particularly good at ignoring crimes against gay victims of crime?

[–] Aussieiuszko@aussie.zone 29 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

There’s proof that officers are particularly good at ignoring crimes against gay victims of crime.

Go ask any gay person. Our experiences with police are rarely good, and never helpful. I still remember them breaking a guys leg in an unlawful raid on a gay art studio a few years ago.

[–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 12 points 2 weeks ago

Further to that, pride here in Sydney have repeatedly said lgbtqi+ officers are welcome at pride in their capacity as a person. Police as an entity are not.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 1 points 2 weeks ago

Is there some proof that gay officers are better at preventing crimes against gay people?

If not, they're just as unwelcome as the rest of the cops.