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[–] MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

"Having sex with"

Raping.

[–] o0joshua0o@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We need to treat women who do this the same way we treat men who do this.

[–] Im14abeer@midwest.social 5 points 1 year ago

Well, she faces 43 years, I'm not sure how the sentence is divvied up between the charges, but it seems like that might happen here. That being said, if she were a pretty, white woman, the comments would probably say things like "nice!" or "where were these teachers when I grew up?"

[–] Urbanfox@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Why are these women not called rapists?!
There's a fundamental change that needs to take place for women who commit sex crimes.

They get let off, the victims are not fully believed or supported in the same way a woman would be, and the media reports it almost like "what a lucky kid" rather than a person in a position of authority taking advantage of a child. If the genders were swapped there would be an angry mob outside.

[–] butterslaps@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] jayrhacker@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How about we turn this around a bit; what if we didn't round all sexual misconduct up to violent sexual assault?

Yes statutory sexual violations are a crime, yes having sex with someone who's too drunk to consent is a crime, but they aren't the same crime as violent sexual assault in the same way that manslaughter isn't premeditated murder.

[–] butterslaps@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago

The first thing that comes to mind is Brock Turner. He raped an unconscious woman behind a dumpster. To you does that fall under "violent rape" or "having sex with someone too drunk to consent"? In my view it's both. The violence is inherent in the act of being violated. People need to err on the side of consent or accept the risk of being called a rapist.

[–] Powof@pawb.social 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Why do they have to sugarcoat rape? I wonder if the judge will tell her that she has been found guilty of having sex.

[–] DaSaw@midwest.social 7 points 1 year ago

Because it's only rape if men do it.

[–] lud@lemm.ee -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It seems it was consensual though.

Still very bad and illegal of course but not rape.

[–] YeetPics@mander.xyz 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can't get consent from a minor. This was rape.

[–] lud@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's fair.

I usually connect rape with nonconsensual often violent sexual assault. But I guess could also be rape. Personally I would just call in sexual assault though, since I associate the word rape differently.

[–] YeetPics@mander.xyz 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You should be a reporter, they have a hard time calling it rape, too.

[–] lud@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I would call it rape when the person is charged guilty.

[–] YeetPics@mander.xyz 2 points 1 year ago

So it's just sexual assault until they are found guilty in court and then it's rape?

[–] SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Ironically, I saw a pithy comment from a Redditor several years ago that pointed out the problem with calling him a "lucky kid" who likely wanted sex: An 8th grade boy probably would also greatly enjoy guns and high-powered sports cars. It's still bad news for adults to give him any of those things. Glad she's facing consequences.

Rapes child and gives child a gun.

Wow this is the fodder shitty parents use when they want to defund schools.