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[–] CaptPretentious@lemmy.world -1 points 1 hour ago (4 children)

America, can we stop it with the guns and violence?

I get the idea of wanting to defend oneself, but that ultimately means a shootout. It's hardly going to matter who shot the first bullet in the history books. The far right are also going to arm themselves when they see other people arming themselves. And it's only going to 'prove them right' in their eyes.

Do I have a better solution, no. But more mass shootings isn't going to be the answer. And it's only going to take one shootout before it's used in a legal sense against people. And guns aren't going to be what's made illegal in the United States, especially with a republican-controlled government...

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 6 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

The far right have already armed themselves. Pacifists just end up at the bottom of the mass grave.

As long as you have no better solution, then defending oneself is on the table. Nobody is talking about mass shootings, but when people are getting beaten up in the streets because the emboldened nazis are walking around feeling their oats, then maybe their intended victims should be given a chance to stay alive, even if it conflicts with your morals. Better judged by 12 than carried by 6.

[–] clutchtwopointzero@lemmy.world 1 points 24 minutes ago

Unfortunately, in the American system, the only answer is for everyone to have guns

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 hour ago

I don't like it, but we've made a fucked up situation. Likely the only way we get the momentum to fix it is if things get bad enough though, which I'm not encouraging just pointing out that a large segment of our society has a stupid concept of gun rights which isn't actually in the constitution.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 0 points 44 minutes ago

I get the idea of wanting to defend oneself, but that ultimately means a shootout.

Study a concept called “deterrence”. It’ll blow your mind.

It's hardly going to matter who shot the first bullet in the history books.

Generally speaking whoever shoots first lives while the other one dies. Above statement makes no sense?

The far right

Admit it. You only refer to “the far right” and never “the right”.

are also going to arm themselves when they see other people arming themselves

We’re already armed, in response to the other people who’ve been arming themselves for thousands of years. The world being a dangerous place is not something we are just discovering now.

Do I have a better solution, no.

Awareness is always a good first step to growth

But more mass shootings isn't going to be the answer.

Buying a gun does not cause maas shootings to happen.

And it's only going to take one shootout before it's used in a legal sense against people.

?? explain

And guns aren't going to be what's made illegal in the United States, especially with a republican-controlled government...

You guessed it. We republicans are going to make women illegal. Such clear headed insight on your part

[–] kipo@lemm.ee 28 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Jessie McGrath, 63, a lifelong Republican who is trans, grew up around guns on farms in Colorado and Nebraska. She decided to vote for Harris when Republicans started attacking gender-affirming care and “wanting to basically outlaw my ability to exist”. She ended up being a delegate at the Democratic national convention.

“Government getting involved in making healthcare decisions is something that I never thought I would see the Republican party doing,” she said.

What the actual...how are people this ignorant.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 0 points 42 minutes ago

Is there some republican legislation that makes gender affirming care impossible for a 63 year old?

[–] Trae@lemmy.world 12 points 4 hours ago (3 children)

She was 100% on board with them regulating reproductive care because it has never personally affected her as a biological male.

She only has an issue now that her favorite team turned on her after telling her for the last 30 years that she's next.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Assigned male at birth is the term you want to use. "Biological male" is a term used by transphobes to spread misinformation.

Biology is very complex and not your elementary school version of biology. What makes someone "biologically" male? Is it having a penis, having testis, having more testosterone than estrogen, having XY chromosomes? These can all be intermixed with other characteristics.

The "basic biology" definition doesn't work in the real world, and the people using it are actively trying to harm trans people or ignorant. Now you're more informed so ignorance isn't an excuse anymore.

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[–] Clbull@lemmy.world 23 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (2 children)

At this rate America's 4B movement is gonna stand for "bang bang bang bang"...

i support this line of thinking. Why fuck people when you can just shoot them instead, wait....

[–] Jank@literature.cafe 4 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I thought the whole point was not to bang?

[–] Yeller_king@reddthat.com 5 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Stop banging and start banging!

[–] Draegur@lemm.ee 3 points 5 hours ago

Start blastin

[–] Yewb@lemmy.world 36 points 10 hours ago (5 children)

Im a liberal guess who now has a gun safe with multiple guns?

I guess we are making America great again by arming the liberals too?

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