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[–] FoxFairline@lemmy.blahaj.zone 157 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] Syl@jlai.lu 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Any reason why? I also like the templar from path of exile.

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[–] StarManta@lemmy.world 102 points 1 year ago (40 children)

Trying to claim the term “Web3” is a futile battle. It is already widely understood to mean crypto and blockchain. If I see a job posting that says the company is built on Web3, I know immediately that the job is built on scams and grifts without having to ask further questions. Web3 as a term is ruined already.

For this to work it must be a different term than Web3. Maybe “Web 3.0” is different enough?

[–] kimpilled@infosec.pub 31 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 15 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I suggest forking Web3 into at least three competing things

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[–] mustardman@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just do what USB does and call it "Web 3 v2"

[–] vidumec@lemmy.sdf.org 17 points 1 year ago (3 children)
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[–] vox@sopuli.xyz 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

also Web 3.0 was already a thing (semantic web), cryptobros just stole the term.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semantic_Web

[–] RobotToaster@infosec.pub 10 points 1 year ago

Which is pretty much what activitypub is a part of.

[–] cxfredeper@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

"Web x" is dumb marketing speak. It exists because people who use the phrase can't intelligently talk about the actual underlying technology.

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[–] AndreTelevise@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

Or perhaps Web 3.1. But seriously, I would call it the Federated Web.

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[–] mustardman@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Blockchain and crypto are both decentralized, which is exactly what Web3 is defined as. Just because they came before federated websites doesn't mean the definition is exclusive to them. I would call "Web3" ruined, rather I would say that ActivityPub is the first great implementation of it.

PS: The distinction between Web 3 and Web 3.0 is giving me some real USB 3.2 Gen 1 vibes.

[–] newIdentity@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Web3 usually means it's decentralized. So yes, in most cases it's cryptocurrencies

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[–] squiblet@kbin.social 68 points 1 year ago (2 children)

but how do I give someone .0045 cents for no apparent reason??

[–] AndreyAsimow@lemmy.world 48 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Don't forget the 40 dollar transaction fee

[–] Feddyteddy@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 1 year ago (42 children)

The only people that think this is correct are ones that learned about crypto 5 years ago and never thought to update their information. The lightning network allows for tiny bitcoin transactions with sub one cent transaction fees. In addition to that, the transactions happen in less than a second.

[–] TheOneCurly@lemmy.theonecurly.page 12 points 1 year ago (5 children)

As long as you have a channel with that person preconfigured and funded right? Otherwise you need to do an on chain transaction with on chain fees to set up that sub one cent transaction.

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[–] marv99@feddit.de 14 points 1 year ago (4 children)

GNU Taler. Ah, question was rhetorical :)

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[–] HulkSmashBurgers@reddthat.com 51 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

I also think IPFS (non filecoin version) could prove useful in the future as well.

[–] linearchaos@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

A post mentioning IPFS that hasn't been downvoted into the mantle? I'm impressed.

It seems that most people don't have any idea that it's not reliant upon blockchain.

Somebody asked the other day about hosting websites on cell phones. I mentioned that IPFS would be just about perfect for that and everyone got out their pitchforks.

[–] cynetri@midwest.social 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

What's IPFS in layman's terms? The Wikipedia is hard for me to follow lol

[–] 31337@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 year ago

I don't know the details (checked it out once, before crypto integration), but it's like bittorrent. You seed your own files, people who download and keep the files also seed. I think I once tried out a prototype decentralized (crypto) ebay-like app, and all images were "hosted" on IPFS. (So, once the app downloaded the product image, it seeded it to other clients).

I believe all files are hashed, and something like DHT is used to lookup files by hash id.

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[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 47 points 1 year ago

Noooooooooo, you can't like things that can evade stupid and needless monetization!

[–] bappity@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (13 children)

it's insulting to consider cryptocurrency or blockchain as any kind of next generation thing

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[–] regalia@literature.cafe 33 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I hate the term Web3, the name itself feels like gaslighting. It tries to imply like it's the next step for the web. It's just grifting and is absolutely impractical lol.

Notice how Web3 blew up because of insane VC money, then suddenly dies what feels like overnight. They didn't care about decentralization, otherwise they'd actually invest in non Blockchain bullshit. But then they can't scam with crypto coins.

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[–] FrostyCaveman@lemm.ee 31 points 1 year ago

Look at me is federated and decentralized

I am the web3 now

[–] slacktoid@lemmy.ml 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I call it web3.0++ its web3.0 after the concussion wore off.

[–] NatoBoram@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Web 3.1, this time with realistic use cases!

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[–] Thedogspaw@midwest.social 24 points 1 year ago (20 children)

Don't forget about nfts there the future man they can't be replicated man where can you spend 100k and by the end of the week your investment is worh $3.50

[–] seitanic@lemmy.sdf.org 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Where you spend 100k for a JPEG

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The JPEG isn’t even on the blockchain for the majority of NFTs. It’s just a URL to a JPEG on a server someone else owns. If they take down the server, sell it, it gets hacked, the url scheme changes, etc someone is now the proud owner of a broken link lol

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[–] Thedogspaw@midwest.social 12 points 1 year ago (29 children)

Its not a jpeg man its an nft it uses blockchain man it can't be replicated its totally the future now let me plug in 50 gpus I got to start mining

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[–] WolfhoundRO@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I would see that crypto and blockchain scam as more like the last breath of Web2, given the monetization thing

[–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

No. Web2 is about user generated content (as opposed to the static pages of Web1) - crapto stuff hardly fits the bill. Like it or not, it really does belong to Web3 - which is about decentralization.

[–] DmMacniel@feddit.de 16 points 1 year ago

Now that's a definition I can get behind.

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