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Enough Musk Spam

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[–] GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 hour ago

Sorry friend, but it's time to let this one go: https://www.snopes.com/news/2024/11/21/stephen-spoonamore-letter-harris/

Remember that we're not like the Republicans - when confronted with claims of election tampering, we check whether the claims actually hold water, and it appears that they don't.

Better spend your effort on figuring out how to get better results next election.

[–] realtegan@lemm.ee 42 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Easy enough to disprove. Do the hand recounts in the supposedly affected states. If those hand recounts aren't done, there's going to be a lot of progressives who spend the next four years looking as lunatic as the "stop the steal" people - with the difference being that there was a really easy way to disprove the lunacy that wasn't used, whereas the "stop the steal" was disproven multiple times and even went to court repeatedly.

So, what I'm saying, just do the damn recount so we can put this thing to rest.

[–] Scubus@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

Nah, harris already threw in the towel. She will not call for a recount, i guarantee it.

[–] realtegan@lemm.ee 2 points 14 minutes ago

So instead we're going to have to listen to half-baked conspiracy theories for the next few years in addition to everything else. Gah!

[–] Landless2029@lemmy.world 8 points 1 hour ago

I'm actually pissed off at the Democratic party about just rolling over.

If Harris won you're damn sure we'd be flooded with "investigations", "evidence", lawsuits and recounts. The news would be flooded with it.

Once Trump won all that shit just disappeared even though the reds have been prepping to fight for months.

Harris had a shit ton of money donated to her campaign. Why not hire a shit ton of lawsuits and set them loose??

[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 5 points 7 hours ago

true that. exactly.

do the manual recounts since the software was compromised and tons of computer specialists are worried about that and let's put it to rest.

[–] AWistfulNihilist@lemmy.world 23 points 9 hours ago (6 children)

Enjoy chasing this down to disassociate with what's going on in the country for the next 4 years. Looks comfy, like really comfy.

I may slip on a pair of [conspiracy theory] myself at some point!

[–] Monument@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

I feel like the article was pretty tongue in cheek about the reason for the bullet vote statistical anomaly. They went right from the conspiracy theory that. machines were hacked in swing states to Musk’s fake giveaway that incentivized people to sign up to vote in swing states.

It’s like, gee, do you think they’re trying to suggest maybe there’s a reason that people who would only be interested in one race may have skewed things a little? Add a dash of targeting your marketing (to conservatives), and maybe coordination with a PAC that can phone bank, and well, folks who may not normally vote might vote for just the one big election.
And there’s your statistical anomaly. No computer hacking. Just game theory, targeted advertising, and an endless torrent of texts and calls.

Incidentally, my phone number is one that’s, well, kind of fake sounding. It’s 3 sets of 2 (in the same row!), and one adjacent singlet, like (but not actually) 99-77-88-5. And I get a lot of other people’s calls and messages. I let down a lot of teenage boys back when exchanging numbers was how people DM’d. Anyway, a few of the wayward texts this year were from Trump’s PAC talking about this contest. But I didn’t hear shit about it from any of the democratic PAC’s!

So that’s sort of what I think explains what they’re talking about. Shitty and probably illegal, sure? A conspiracy? Meh.

[–] AWistfulNihilist@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

A spear phishing style marketing tactic that worked, spearheaded by 150 million of revenue from a desperate billionaire.

These people who voted the top of the ticket only were Joe Rogan listeners, and people who were duped by the million dollar giveaways. IMO, this is evidence of success, not evidence of foul play.

But honestly, if people are willing to check, I'm willing to let them. I'm just not gonna cry over this spilled mil... country.

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 37 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

We knew damn well that Trump and co. were preparing to attempt to steal the election if necessary. We knew and have been documenting that Trump and co. were installing and/or trying to install sympathetic election officials everywhere they could in the last 4 years. We know damn well that Trump and co. already tried to cheat in the last election, e.g. trying to get Brad Raffensperger to "find me 11,780 votes" in Georgia in 2020. We know that Trump and co. are fighting hard in court anywhere they can to have mail in ballots thrown out, e.g. in Pennsylvania. We know Trump sycophants have been setting fire to absentee ballot boxes. These are not the actions of a campaign expecting to win legitimately.

Even sitting here as a random largely uneducated chump on the internet, not even rising to the level of armchair expert, I can see that the latest election results need to be investigated and validated and verified as thoroughly as humanly possible, on every level, to find where -- not if -- Trump's cronies cheated. Whether or not they cheated enough to actually affect the ultimate outcome if the election is less clear, but let's not kid ourselves. The chances that this was a completely straight and honest election are, without a doubt, zero.

If Dickhead really did win after all that, then he won. But the process must be totally transparent. There is no other way for it to maintain any semblance of legitimacy.

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[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 9 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

some diaper boasted before the election "we have the votes"

[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 hours ago

diaper? is that what magaheads are called now?

[–] Prunebutt 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 19 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

Stop saying Trump didn't steal the election.

his lawyers literally had the voting software stolen, as court documents show, and it's a historical and statistical stark improbability that this many people only voted for the president on their ballots, only in the seven swing states, and only with just enough of a margin to avoid a manual recount.

you clearly didn't read the article.

these are facts that computer security experts are putting forth as evidence that the election was manipulated.

[–] Prunebutt 2 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (37 children)

You clearly didn't watch the video (how could you within 1 minute). It references the guy who wrote the first open letter.

[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

"It references the guy who wrote the first open letter."

did you watch the video?

her conclusion is, "that guy was right before, the Republicans did steal the election in 2000, but maybe he isn't correct this time?"

maybe. let's do the recounts and see if those votes are there.

I think it makes sense to listen to the guy who was right about the Republicans stealing the election last time since we have evidence that they tried to steal the election 4 years ago, like straight up admitted by the electors who committed fraud.

your video supports my point.

[–] Prunebutt 7 points 8 hours ago (12 children)

her conclusion is, "that guy was right before, the Republicans did steal the election in 2000, but maybe he isn't correct this time?"

lol, nope. Not what she said in the video. That guy didn't complain in 2000. He did so in 2004, though.

You didn't watch it.

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