If you'd like to support archival in general, consider donating to https://archive.org/ . They regularly archive books and media that can be potentially banned. It doesn't hurt to download parts of the archive on your machine if you want to be extra sure, but keep in mind the internet archive is massive with petabytes of data.
this post was submitted on 06 Nov 2024
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Archive is on American soil. They got sued for lending ebooks during the pandemic and lost, so they are not a safe bet. Archive elsewhere. Anywhere else.
They really should relocate to Europe.
Fuck, are we really becoming the last beacon of freedom and liberty?
Perhaps Japan
One of the few left.
As always
We will have to fight for it though. At this rate we will have to vote down chat control yearly for the next century, and Macron and Scholz are not infinitely better than the US dems either.
At least now, they see that immediate rearmament and asserting ourselves as an economic and geopolitic power is a necessity, even if our industry doesn't feel like it and never wants to change.
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Why can't humanity seem to learn that storing all of our knowledge and cultural artifacts in just one place with no backup is a BAD IDEA? Don't let the library of Alexandria burn again!
That's why people should torrent and seed lots of its data!
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Shit, now I'm doubly worried about Archive staying online.
As @hollyberries pointed out, archive's servers are on American soil, if there's a federal ban on improper("fake") knowledge, their assets could easily be seized. No laws would have to change from today for them to do this, they'd just have to think up a somewhat reasonable excuse...
Probably they'd use obscenity laws. Or they might bring lawsuit after lawsuit, dmca after dmca, until it drains them of their funds.
The possibilities are endless.
I gotta get offline now. This morning hasn't been too great for my mental health.
I'm hopeful that the archivists were looking to transfer their servers elsewhere (if they could while in the middle of that lawsuit).
If not it will likely be gone. :/
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And also good to keep in mind is that digital storage is volatile. Yes it's impractical to have a few terabytes printed out, but if stored properly, it'll last longer than digital media storage.
Another thing to consider:
If things go full on crazy, like they seem likely to do, being in possession of improper knowledge could be a capital offence when the thought police come knocking.
Another thing to consider: If things go full on crazy, like they seem likely to do, being in possession of improper knowledge could be a capital offence when the thought police come knocking.
Ehhh, fuck fascists. They can't get all of us if a bunch of us do this.
It's all hypothetical for now. But with control of the house and senate, there's not a single thing actually stopping them as long as the rank and file of the GOP stay in line and push everything through. Hopefully there's enough liberal and further left inclined "Well organised militias" to fight back against anything super fashy....
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Good argument for encryption and servers within a privacy respecting country
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Digital data stored right is extremely non-volatile - but it takes an effort to do so,but the same goes for printing out terabytes.
And digital data can be hidden far easier.
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Somebody needs to fix IPFS so we can archive all that shit and share in hosting a chunk.
With the internet as it is it's extremely unlikely we'll see an information purge like nazi Germany. We might see censorship and destruction of art but information will survive internationally.
We should probably assume most things are hosted in the states and have ron desantis coming for them.
Hopefully they don't go all "Great Firewall of the US" on us.
Depends on who's in charge. 50%+ of the internet seems to be hosted by amazon and musk rules his little fiefdom. The call to be proactive isn't unreasonable.
We might see censorship and destruction of art but information will survive internationally.
As well as imprisoning of people spreading information and making art that the regime doesn't like.
Your optimism about that is inspiring but one bad solar flare, some sea cables or a pissed off dictator/billionaire can shrink the world real quick. SneakerNETs anyone?
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For a while now I've wanted to start a project of shit politicians say. Video as much as possible. Every shitty immoral reprehensible thing that they come out and say and do logged into a searchable archive. Make it super easy for regular people to stitch together anti-political ads using the politicians own words with context.
Why? More than 50% of US voters just elected a convicted felon and rapist. Using the politicians' utterances against them is not going to do anything.
It's not for now, it's for our kids, or their kids, assuming we get some morals in a couple of generations.
Seriously! I just dont understand how so many people can just overlook this. Honestly they have openly approved it all. They never again have a right to expect justice for themselves, because they approved rampant criminal behavior in about the most formal way.
This is truly sickening. Clearly he can get away with anything just as he has always known. I just cannot figure it out. How can people do this? It truly makes me sure our species stands no chance.
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Best time to start this was before. But 2nd best time is now!
That would be awesome, I wish that had existed a few months ago.
I don't think it would have mattered starting a few months ago he was very open with everything that he did and said. But media like that has a tendency to get buried over time and I want my kids and their kids to know exactly what the f*** happened
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The fascist, directly into cold storage and left to bit-rot.
Joking aside, history. If you really think the internet will not be a thing yet want to survive: water purification. farming, water management, plant guides, waste technology (your bodily excretions have a lot of uses (from laundry to fertilizer) but also a number of risks), medicine, forestry, jointery, metalworking, mining, animal husbsnwdry, skinning, hunting, numeracy, literacy, leadership, etc. in roughly that order
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I'm going to do a shameful plug here, but I have made a sharing protocol & implementation that can be used to store data safely and also to safely share this data.
It's called Tenfingers
It's working but it is still in its infancy, so any help would be greatly appreciated.
Please do say what you think about it!
Lets keep the morale!
Nice to know. I'm starting to think targeted groups will either use stuff like this or IPFS, or have to resort to Tor/I2P
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Pack everything and leave
In reality we (the internet people) still have the stuff.
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You can easily keep Wikipedia around - burn it on archive BDs(M-Disc), they are easily hidden, can take the whole Wikipedia in one disk and basic information is extremely valuable in an oppressive regime. Then do the same for a collection of E-Books based on what is most likely to be banned/what the right wing does take the biggest offence on. And what aids you the most in either getting out or resist.
Using archive BDs(M-Discs) is important as regular storage devices can easily be detected due to their metallic contents and they degrade within years. M-Discs are far more resilient and can be almost as easily hidden.
WTF is a BDSM disc? Some kind of kink thing?
And BDs would be Bluray disks
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Apparently porn based on all the bans in the south.
Honestly, everything. Any TV show, movie, documentary, book, or hell even porn that could be deemed as valuable or important in any way as I could see any one of these things becoming outlawed with such a regime. Hell, Canada's new prime minister (99% chance to win in the next election apparently) is going to try for putting porn behind digital IDs (despite claiming to be against digital IDs before if I remember correctly) which is just going to be a privacy nightmare unfortunately, I'm already having to stockpile porn because of this ridiculous bullshit. We are truly in a doomed timeline.
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There was a similar question at another community. I'll verbatim my reply:
As a syncretic Luciferian currently, I’d say esoteric and occult books/grimoires as well. Everything that’s deemed “demonic” by christianity should be safely archived.
There are many, many authors and books that hold importance for esoteric and occult studies and practices.
An example that comes to mind are the books written by Anton LaVey, especially the The Satanic Bible. As he was american, so are his books’ first copies from, so a greater risk of those copies being seized or something.
While this risk wouldn’t be the same for all corpora written by Aleister Crowley, as he was English so the first copies aren’t at american soil (if I guessed correctly), I’m not sure how far a christotyrannical regime would go for “serving God’s will”.
So, in summary, I’d say everything should be archived. Both physically and digitally. It’s worth mentioning how Internet Archive is being attacked: the Internet Archive holds many digital copies of important esoteric and occult knowledge as well. If Internet Archive goes permanently down, it’d ripple to other sites such as sacred-texts.
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