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[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago

Sorry we let you down, Bernie, there are just too many shitheads now.

[–] zanyllama52@infosec.pub 69 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Welp, that's a wrap. We reelected Trump. I'm floored.

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Hello floored, I am to say it lightly "disappointed"

[–] HiddenLychee@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

As a trans person, it's a bit more than light for me

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, really hope you can figure something out. We both know you are not safe.

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We both know you are not safe.

Don’t know if this is sympathy or if you’re out front of their door in a bush right now.

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Hey, Nick Cage is an icon.

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[–] digdilem@lemmy.ml 80 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'd make a Biden old joke here but my heart just isn't in it.

[–] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 20 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Hubris. Democrats lose because characters like RBG and President Biden simply could not fathom that stepping aside was ALWAYS what they should have done.

These miserable fucking dinosaurs have gambled away the good intentions, hopes, and stability of the entire nation because their internal mantra was that they are our political saviors, while everyone under 50 was full-throated screaming that they needed to step aside.

Fuck all you geriatric, foot on the gas, oblivious, incompetent fucks. If (big if) we ever regain our Democracy, the first thing on the agenda should be AGE CAPS for all public offices. Elderly fucking hubris has doomed us to more misery.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

Democrats lose because characters like RBG and President Biden simply could not fathom that stepping aside was ALWAYS what they should have done.

Lol, dude the guy that won the election is the oldest person to ever run for president in the history of the country, and a sitting Democratic president stepped aside due to public pressure for younger leadership, but yeah the concept of gerontocracy is what did them in. 🙄

[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Kyrsten Sinema is in her 40s, Bernie Sanders is in his 80s.

Age is not the factor here.

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Literally the oldest president-elect in American history, but keep acting like age matters.

It's attitude. It's playing by the rules or bending them. Republicans figured out the cheat codes...they can bend the rules and win, or at the very least not lose. Because you can't, honestly, compete with that. It's impossible. Lies are far easier to create than they are to refute.

So either Dems have to go low, and lower the bar further, bend the rules more, and be just as guilty of breaking democracy as the GOP...or they can play clean and lose. There is no winning for the Democrats, and there is no losing for the Republicans. They found the cheat codes.

What's more, they got seized control of the anti-cheat (SCOTUS) 4 years ago. Stubbornness is a part of it, sure...RBG was too stubborn to leave at an opportune time...but let's not kid ourselves over GOP hypocrisy when it came time to fill her seat, and let's not consider whether or not Trump is stubborn.

Republicans can do no wrong, but Democrats have to be perfect.

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[–] Shard@lemmy.world 98 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] Zementid@feddit.nl 43 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah seems like that was it for the US. Have fun living in Gilead.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Ngl probably going to try to leave for good

[–] AstralPath@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 day ago (10 children)

Get the process started now. Don't wait.

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[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

I’m lucky enough to have dual EU nation citizenship from my childhood. Going to be digging through my childhood paperwork in case I need it.

[–] VinnyDaCat@lemmy.world 41 points 1 day ago

I'm sorry we failed you Bernie.

[–] nicerdicer@feddit.org 13 points 1 day ago
[–] demizerone@lemmy.world 43 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Democratic party is fucking useless. We will never be free unless we rid ourselves of legalized corruption.

[–] timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Poor take. Truthfully, the people want hate. That's what trump ran on and promised.

This isn't about policy or likeability or whatever. This is what people want and they proved it. Stop blaming the Democrat party and blame what this country and its people are instead.

[–] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (6 children)

Are you kidding? The DNC circumvented the entire primary process to give us ANOTHER "anointed one" and, again, possibly the worst candidate possible to create the coalition that has always been Democrats' bread-and-butter. They even had Hillary go down to FL to lecture voters, while Bill went to Michigan to preach to Muslim communities about why the war in Israel is right. It's a fucking lampoon of strategy.

Every single DNC "elite" should retire from politics, today. They're losers, and losers lose. Because they never learn from their mistakes, which is what is required to win.

[–] scemmy@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm sorry, since when is circumventing primary process worse than literally trying to steal an election? You want the perfect Democrat to run, while the other side is running a joke.

Let's not kid ourselves, the reason Democrats lost was because of economy and voter apathy. Otherwise, we wouldn't see Democrats lose control of all branches of the government. No matter what strategies they adopted, it wouldn't have worked.

She was already a VP and our country still has inflation. People are idiots and blame it on Democrats.

[–] HiddenLychee@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

I mean, it's likely both. Apathy towards hate is still pretty bad imo, and hate is the Republican party platform. Also just saying, the economy needs some inflation and I think we're around 3% right now, which economists agree is ideal? Not an expert there tho

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[–] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 day ago

He didn't say he preferred trump, he said the Democrats are useless.

Which they are; they couldn't defeat an orange windbag with transparent aspirations of autocracy.

[–] tyo_ukko@sopuli.xyz 11 points 1 day ago

Hate and simple answers. Trump will "fix inflation" and "bring jobs back", what could be better? Don't ask how or what it will cost.

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[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 31 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Oligarchs have all the power now

[–] Jumpingspiderman@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Except they've always had all the power. The money gets what the money wants.

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[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 14 points 1 day ago (8 children)

I wonder how quickly will the US progress from Elon Musk prancing around on stage to Trump Jack Ma-ing him, or if Bloomberg will commit suicide by six shots to the back of the head.

The golden age of the US oligarchy has been this past period. Under fascism, the causal relationship between having power and money reverses.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

WDYM, Hitler was pretty friendly with German oligarchy. No suiciding them or something, their relationships were pretty chill, having fun together, going to countryside, going to each other with families, having coffee.

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[–] archchan@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Now? I wasn't aware they ever didn't.

[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago

It's more like all pretense is gone now. Before, there was this veneer of legitimacy. Now, it's straight up fascism. It's a matter of image projection.

[–] 13esq@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

More like the oligarchy now have 99% of the power rather than 98%.

The issue is that we believe we have a free democracy when the only power we have is to put an X in a box every few years. The system isn't broken, it's working as it's designed to.

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[–] grue@lemmy.world 171 points 2 days ago (46 children)

Democracy supporters have to win every single time, while the fascists only have to win once. This is not a sustainable situation. We have to do what is necessary in a way that's a lot more permanent than just winning an election.

[–] Xanis@lemmy.world 31 points 2 days ago (3 children)

That requires carrying this energy past the election cycle, regardless of the differences we may have on opinion, and coming together in agreement.

Historically, the Left has been rather poor at banding together. We're more likely to argue than get things done most of the time. So it'll be an uphill battle for leaders of smaller groups across the Nation. First though, we need to make it past this hurdle.

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[–] itsgroundhogdayagain@lemmy.ml 73 points 2 days ago (4 children)

I do not trust Americans to "do their own research". I've seen how that has gone in the past. Too many Americans do their own research while scrolling Facebook from the toilet.

[–] 13esq@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Research requires a critical mind. Think of a person you know that has average intelligence, 50% of people are more stupid than that.

And I'm not saying that stupidity is solely an issue for the republican electorate, I'm just saying "do your own research" is an unrealistic expectation.

People need to be engaged with.

[–] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

More to the point, people need to not be told they're stupid for not already understanding everything there is to know about the theory you're peddling by a person who has taken some pains to avoid explaining any aspect of that theory.

[–] Sabata11792@ani.social 43 points 2 days ago

“do their own research”

That's redneck for "I found someone that agrees with me on the Facebook".

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[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 60 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (7 children)

Four years ago we gave it a stay of execution. Until we fully purge the fascist and focus government to actually serve the people, we are going to keep finding ourselves in chaos, until China beats us to and at everything.

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