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[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 65 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Anything involving a ministry in Russia is not a serious plan. They'll receive funding, hire a couple of bash script writers, well, maybe a couple of people who'll write drivers for Elbrus, Baikal or something that's sort of developed and produced in Russia, but nobody really uses it even in governmental structures.

[–] ravhall@discuss.online 74 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Oh noes, I bet lemmy.ml users all switch.

[–] EleventhHour@lemmy.world 78 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And nothing of value was lost

[–] ravhall@discuss.online 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Except their privacy—oh they didn’t have it to begin with.

[–] EleventhHour@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You can’t lose something you never had

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 3 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Isn't the point that they like a dictatorial government? Presumably they're okay with their every move being watched.

[–] Plastic_Ramses@lemmy.world 3 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Considering how many trans folks exist on those instances, they think they are one of the "good ones".

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 1 points 19 hours ago

Let's just ask our ol' buddy Ernst how that goes.

[–] bassomitron@lemmy.world 2 points 20 hours ago

They like it because they either work for it or hope to work for it and be in a position of power.

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 0 points 18 hours ago

They will go down with the Russian ship.

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 68 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Surely you've realised your instance has a huge pro-russian, pro-china tankie presence?

Lemmy.ml admins me for being against Russia invading Ukraine and committing genocide lmao

If you aren't a tankie, migrating your account could be something to consider.

[–] JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz 23 points 1 day ago (2 children)

"Fuck the white supremacist reddit anti-tankie admins", I'll start my own reddit with blackjack and hookers at lemmy.marxist-leninist to host /r/communism - the creator of Lemmy and admin of lemmy.ml.

[–] parpol@programming.dev 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is why I was secretly rooting for Aether to take off instead of Lemmy.

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[–] ravhall@discuss.online 9 points 1 day ago (16 children)

Do you agree that the CCP was responsible for thousands of deaths during the Tiananmen Square massacre? Do you agree that China is committing genocide against the Uyghurs?

If you agree, think you might agree, or don’t know what the fuck I’m talking about, you shouldn’t be on lemmy.ml

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 1 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

Eh the massacring happened on side streets, local Peking residents were trying to keep the army from moving into the square not really knowing that other Peking residents had already briefed the army on who the protesters actually were, and what they wanted, and how they behaved. Once the army was on the square and set an ultimatum it was cleared with no or few casualties, the reports are a bit fuzzy.

That doesn't excuse the CCP in one bit, of course, or rather it doesn't excuse the hardline faction who couldn't stomach that others in the party were actually talking to the protesters as that would set a precedent that you can just turn up on the square and get an audience with the party, or maybe more precisely could boost the influence of one party faction over the whole.

The whole situation really can't be divorced from Hu Yaobang and his role in the party: The protests were essentially a wake for him and his ideas. Which the hardliners thoroughly buried afterwards and the situation in China hasn't improved to the point where Chinese would even be comfortable to criticise that decision -- you'd get invited for tea, if you can catch on to the euphemism.

If it had been up to the hardliners yes the army would've massacred the whole square, if that hadn't been their intention they wouldn't have mischaracterised the nature of the protest towards the army. Without ordinary Peking citizens stepping in, and getting butchered for it, that massacre would have happened.

And yes the Uygur situation is a genocide that's without question or asterisk.

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[–] CaptainBasculin@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Yes to both. I absolutely despise both country's governments because of their actions. However mirroring the government's actions to individuals living in a country does not seem fair. I fucking hate my country's president, and would celebrate it if he died. Why should I get judged based on his actions?

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 14 points 22 hours ago

No one's judging you based on his actions, they're judging you based on your actions. That being to have your account on an instance that supports those actions.

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[–] rusticus@lemm.ee 28 points 1 day ago

Omg I bet lemmygrad is crying in their panties!

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