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Steve Bannon, a former adviser to Donald Trump, will be released from prison on Tuesday.

The timing puts him back in front of the media exactly one week before Election Day -- and he's already called his first press conference, which will take place just hours after his scheduled release.

On Tuesday, Bannon will have served his four-month prison term, which came with a $6,500 fine.

He was sentenced on two counts of contempt of Congress for failing to comply with a subpoena related to the Jan. 6, 2021, riot at the Capitol.

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[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 108 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

"If it took me going to prison to finally get the House to start to move, to start to delegitimize the illegitimate J6 committee, then, hey, guess what, my going to prison is worth it," he said at the time.

Wow Steve! If 4 months in prison got you something you wanted, imagine how much good you could do for the nation by going to prison for life!

[–] bcgm3@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

to start to delegitimize the illegitimate J6 committee

How does one delegitimize that which is already illegitimate? 🤔

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 48 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Steve Bannon weaponizing weak men and video game incels for fascism is such a wild story I can’t believe it even happened.

[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

All roads lead back to gamergate. It’s really fucked up.

Also, phrasing it as “weak men” makes you sound like you’re a bit on their side. You’re using their qualitative language. “Lonely men” might work better.

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 17 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Nah, selling out your country because you can’t get a date and video games aren’t sexy is weak behaviour by weak minded people and I’m not going to pretend it isn’t.

[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Ok, fair enough. I’m conceptualizing these people as they were before they are taken advantage of.

The internet was a mistake.

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 16 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

They were like that before. Steve Bannon just realized he could use that shitty behaviour for political ends. Those guys don’t suck because of Steve Bannon, Bannon targeted them because they suck.

[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Well, we both had different groups in mind with the label then.

I really am talking about the subset that were taken down the pipeline and who were not shit heads before that.

It’s definitely true that there is a whole group of weak shit heads who decide on this world view with little outside influence. The hopeful side of me wants to perceive this group as smaller than the group that was truly taken advantage of.

Shitty behavior is shitty behavior. Don’t get me wrong, I hate this gamergate incel shit.

Edit: I realize I should clarify more? Maybe? My perception of gamergate was that a bunch of people were swept up by it and “activated” so to speak. Maybe that’s naïve. People with immature world views.

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah. These people aren’t new though. Pushback to progress from reactionaries that are insecure with their own masculinity is well documented over the last century-ish. Possibly longer but I’ve only read about such a thing since the end of world war 2.

[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

I see.

“Incel” and the archetype seem to be newer. And the phenomenon much larger in recent times. What was it labeled in the time before that? My gut instinct says it’s indistinct like many things were. Similar to having names for mental disorders now that we didn’t have back then. So there would have been lots of various labels for that type of guy. Never really coalescing until “incel” was popularized.

You take a broader and broader view of the group as our conversation goes on. I’ve been looking at the more recent phenomenon. And I’ve been focused on a group just of men/boys who are at a point in their lives before they are snatched by the incel ideology.

It’s a dreadful situation.

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 1 points 2 weeks ago

Depending on the country and time there’s been many different names for it. “Blackshirts.” “Brownshirts.” Generally all the different words for social conservative in the US. But it’s always men that are insecure with their own masculinity, and generally just suck ass and blame their problems on social movements. Right wing pundits have an easy time getting these men onto their side. It’s easier to blame society for your problems than it is to work on yourself. Women having jobs and playing video games is why you aren’t sexually successful or successful at your job, and that’s because leftists hate men and masculinity. Even though that isn’t true fascists have a very easy time convincing these men that it is, because they’re really fucking stupid. But a stupid warm body gets the same amount of votes as a smart warm body, and it’s a great strategy if you’re willing to be super disingenuous with your message. I think it’s probably why hard leftists tend to be fighting these electoral battles with a huge handicap, because Liberals and everyone to the right of them don’t seem to have these moral quandaries, at least as far as American leftists go. But I’m biased as fuck so that could just be my delusional opinion on that.

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 1 points 2 weeks ago

I guess it’s probably important to point out though that the ultraviolence against women in the incel community is new as far as I know, probably because they weren’t able to communicate in such closed and broad reaching communities before the internet.

[–] Crackhappy@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

He's just bad at it. The best keep doing it and avoid sentencing for 37 counts of felonies. Thankfully the "system" is biased against them and they got immediate prison terms.

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Is he? I just feel like four months for attempting to overthrow the US government violently is low.

[–] Crackhappy@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Who are you responding to?

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You. Is he bad at what he did? Because it seems like it went well for him all things considered. Which is sad. Dude should be in jail for much longer.

[–] Crackhappy@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Cruxifux, I apologize. I am degenerately drunk and I am not making sense. You're right, it went very well for Bannon all things considerered.

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I also enjoy getting degenerately drunk. Have fun bro.

[–] Crackhappy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Just make sure not to get DeGeneresly drunk.

[–] Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world 40 points 2 weeks ago

"If it took me going to prison to finally get the House to start to move, to start to delegitimize the illegitimate J6 committee, then, hey, guess what, my going to prison is worth it," he said at the time.

No Steve, you just aren't on the important-enough-to-protect-from-subpoena-laws list unlike Jordan.

[–] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 27 points 2 weeks ago

I am sure he has learned his lesson and will be on his best behavior. /s

[–] gargamel@leminal.space 22 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

No one cares what this racist, broken down alcoholic fuck has to say, except people who are already racist broken down fucks themselves.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

I don't care what he has to say.

I do care what he tells others to say.

[–] gerbler@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Unfortunately those racist broken down fucks vote and statistically their vote counts more than yours does :(

[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 20 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

just in time to top the madison square nazi fest before election day.

[–] FilthyHands@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 weeks ago

Can't wait for him to once again say his evil scheme out loud like a cartoon villain.

[–] Jagothaciv@kbin.earth 5 points 2 weeks ago

If we’re lucky he’ll get run over by a Tesla while jaywalking.

[–] RagingSnarkasm@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Time to issue a new subpoena.

[–] brygphilomena@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

File an injunction. Put up every legal barrier to prevent this asshat from having an audience.