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I see.
“Incel” and the archetype seem to be newer. And the phenomenon much larger in recent times. What was it labeled in the time before that? My gut instinct says it’s indistinct like many things were. Similar to having names for mental disorders now that we didn’t have back then. So there would have been lots of various labels for that type of guy. Never really coalescing until “incel” was popularized.
You take a broader and broader view of the group as our conversation goes on. I’ve been looking at the more recent phenomenon. And I’ve been focused on a group just of men/boys who are at a point in their lives before they are snatched by the incel ideology.
It’s a dreadful situation.
I guess it’s probably important to point out though that the ultraviolence against women in the incel community is new as far as I know, probably because they weren’t able to communicate in such closed and broad reaching communities before the internet.
Depending on the country and time there’s been many different names for it. “Blackshirts.” “Brownshirts.” Generally all the different words for social conservative in the US. But it’s always men that are insecure with their own masculinity, and generally just suck ass and blame their problems on social movements. Right wing pundits have an easy time getting these men onto their side. It’s easier to blame society for your problems than it is to work on yourself. Women having jobs and playing video games is why you aren’t sexually successful or successful at your job, and that’s because leftists hate men and masculinity. Even though that isn’t true fascists have a very easy time convincing these men that it is, because they’re really fucking stupid. But a stupid warm body gets the same amount of votes as a smart warm body, and it’s a great strategy if you’re willing to be super disingenuous with your message. I think it’s probably why hard leftists tend to be fighting these electoral battles with a huge handicap, because Liberals and everyone to the right of them don’t seem to have these moral quandaries, at least as far as American leftists go. But I’m biased as fuck so that could just be my delusional opinion on that.