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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 168 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

I've said for a long time now that the U.S. government needs to stop relying on SpaceX and I've got a ton of pushback. "He's not in charge of the company! He just owns it!" Yeah, well I am guessing he wasn't talking to Putin about electric cars or Twitter.

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 65 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I mean, he absolutely was talking to Putin about Xitter as well, I'm guessing! This "champion of free speech" has pretty much silenced any opinions about Trump and his companies that he doesn't like. Nice little preview of the world we're careening toward where billionaires get all the money, all the power, and they can even direct the speech of media outlets...

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 26 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Nice little preview of the world we're careening toward where billionaires get all the money, all the power, and they can even direct the speech of media outlets...

It's already like that. It'll just get a lot worse in the U.S. if Trump wins. There are plenty of countries where this is the norm already unfortunately.

[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 23 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Hard to stop relying on the best rockets in the world. Maybe Blue Origin or RocketLab will step up but it’s hard to see that happening.

Better to just force him to divest than to drop one of the very few good launch providers.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 51 points 3 weeks ago (14 children)

They only are the best rockets in the world because the U.S. government has been giving them piles of money to develop them.

That should not have happened in the first place, but I would like to at least see the government seize their patents since they were paid for by our taxes.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 32 points 3 weeks ago (15 children)

Take the company, keep the good people and make it a part of nasa.

[–] LostMyRedditLogin@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago

If the US can force a sale with Tiktok then the US can force Elon to sell SpaceX for national security reasons.

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[–] Stovetop@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

The US should honestly just nationalize SpaceX and merge it into NASA. Add its operating costs into NASA's budget, cut some redundancies, and I'm sure we'd see a lot of progress happen pretty quickly.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 14 points 3 weeks ago

I'd rather see it run like the USPS. Let it be a quasi-independent company owned by the government. Even though Congress fucks with the USPS, they don't fuck with it like they do NASA.

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[–] VantaBrandon@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Thats like saying Bezos doesn't run WAPO and didn't kill the endorsement, its a nonsensical notion

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[–] _bcron_@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Starlink + Twitter = propaganda mills deliver him Ukraine

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[–] horse_battery_staple@lemmy.world 45 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (4 children)

His starlink --> SpaceForce --> Alphabet agencies pipeline is what scares me

https://spaceflightnow.com/2024/10/24/live-coverage-spacex-to-launch-multiple-satellites-for-the-national-reconnaissance-office-on-falcon-9-rocket-from-vandenberg-sfb/

More of this shit's going up next year..... Just in time for for the DPRK/PRC/Russian/Iranian escalations

Lets privatize top-secret comms and AO mission orchestration. That's not gonna bite us in the ass....

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[–] VantaBrandon@lemmy.world 38 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

CIA needs to start doing its job and um... you know, protect American interests. The African scammer needs to go.

[–] silence7 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Security clearances are nominally the domain of the FBI, rather than the CIA. They tend to see themselves as a right-wing organization though.

[–] Moah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 3 weeks ago

I don't think they were talking about revoking the security clearance here. At least not directly.

[–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 34 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

One part of having a security clearance is also willingly signing away certain protections that you as a private citizen otherwise have.

So fwiw him having a clearance does open the door for additional scrutiny were anyone willing to look.

[–] Jiggle_Physics@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

Yes, plus, he owns contracts with the government that likely contain classified information. It is just much easier to have him under a contract that allows them to just spy on him, in this situation.

[–] RangerJosie@lemmy.world 27 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Because money.

That's it. That's all. He's rich enough to do literally anything he wants. He could use the FBI as his own personal dead hooker disposal company if he wants. Welcome to America.

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[–] shoulderoforion@fedia.io 24 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

This is the corruption that takes the United States and throws it on the history pile with Rome

[–] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Now imagine the Roman empire with the most endgame capitalism for-profit motive on every strata of society and they also have nukes. If/when America falls, it would be reckless to think they'll fall alone. I think it may actually look similar to how Russia tried to take Ukraine because their country was falling off a cliff economically, but like if Russia has military bases in the vast majority of countries on earth.

[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 20 points 3 weeks ago

Milquetoast doesn't want to do his job if it even sniffs at being political.

I cannot wait until his weak ass is kicked to the curb by Harris.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 16 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Can we stop declaring things "Too big to fail!"

[–] alienanimals@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Socialism for the rich.

Rugged capitalism for the poor.

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[–] NeptuneOrbit@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Doesn't he already smoke weed. Openly? On YouTube videos? The exceptions made for him are truly staggering.

[–] Notyou@sopuli.xyz 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

He claimed it was only on Rogan and that he normally does not smoke anyway. Depending on if you wanna believe that or not.

[–] stringere@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

He broke federal law in a public setting. If one murder would be enough...why not this?

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[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago

Look at that asshat, skipping on stage with a shirt thats a size too small and a head filled with government secrets. Clown world.

[–] VantaBrandon@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

Because cowardice runs rampant in Washington

[–] DogPeePoo@lemm.ee 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Merrick Garland is a eunuch

[–] nomadjoanne@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I mean... He makes rockets for them. Wouldn't he have to have some clearance of some kind?

[–] stringere@sh.itjust.works 11 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Security clearances have dependent requirements. His admitted and open drug use should have been the first thing to get his clearance revoked but as others have stated: in America you are only liable for the crimes you cannot afford to commit; as long as you have the money for it you can do anything here.

[–] Waraugh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 weeks ago

I have crossed paths with a couple celebrities that I was surprised had top secret clearances at the (based on open drug use). That part doesn’t really surprise me. His propensity for blackmail is what I find troubling. He may not be a financial risk but he’s certainly a risk due to his desire for control and/or power.

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[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

The bastard should be stripped of his US citizenship for illegally working in the USA.

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