I looked at the indictment last night and noticed it included the names of the grand jurors. I dropped my head into my hands, knowing this was inevitable. I don't understand why the names weren't reacted.
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Georgia law is that grand jurors names are public.
Yeah, pretty naive. Or evil. Maybe both?
It prevents loading the jury to get a specific outcome. That said, it should come with protection or a delay or something.
Not saying it is, but showing me, a regular citizen, these names convinces me the jury wasn't loaded? Does the defendant have no role in Grand jury selection?
No, the defendant doesn’t. This isn’t a trial jury, it’s the Fulton County Grand Jury. The GJ sits for an extended period (maybe a month, someone step in and correct me if I’m wrong) and listens to cases brought by the prosecutor. The GJ job is to decide if the prosecutor has enough of a case to indict. It seems in this case, she did.
That's generally right. In Fulton County they sit for two months. There were two different grand jurys here, though.
There was a Special Grand Jury who met for 8 months and investigated the specific crimes related to the Trump case. They issued a report in January detailing all of the evidence that they heard.
In GA, though, a Special Grand Jury can't issue an indictment. The report was passed to a normal grand jury who heard all of the evidence, then issued the indictment. That grand jury was first seated on July 11th.
I didn't know that. I wish they had a process for applying to redact, for cases like this :(
There's all kinds of laws like this that are super old, and really harmful in modern life. Like name changes having to be published in the paper, and home ownership being public information. Sorry trans people, if you want to legally change your name, you have to be out to everyone! And don't even think about buying a house if there's someone you don't want knowing where you live, like an abusive family member or ex!
They're left over from times when information was harder to come by, and they absolutely need to be changed, but our governments are bad at legislating for modern problems
And don’t even think about buying a house
Well that is a problem that is fading away.
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“It’s becoming all too commonplace to see everyday citizens performing necessary functions for our democracy being targeted with violent threats by Trump-supporting extremists," Jones said. "The lack of political leadership on the right to denounce these threats — which serve to inspire real-world political violence— is shameful.”
And there’s also this:
Yesterday — after Trump posted on his social media website that authorities were going "after those that fought to find the RIGGERS!" — Advance Democracy noted that Trump supporters were "using the term ‘rigger’ in lieu of a racial slur" in posts online.
Advance Democracy noted that Trump supporters were “using the term ‘rigger’ in lieu of a racial slur” in posts online.
Classy as ever
The instant I saw the word "RIGGERS" in his bitch ass post yesterday, I knew exactly what it actually meant. Just more ~~dog whistling~~ fog horn blasting racism from The Cheeto Mussolini. 😡
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Faster. Go to trial faster.
Sadly, predictable.
Equally sad and Equally predictable, this (and the ensuing harrassment) will have the approval of the Republican party.
Extremist fascists gonna fascist.
When someone quite obviously rejects both the electoral system and the legal system unless they work to his advantage, one must surely get the impression that this person simply has no interest in democracy at all.
I'm starting to get the feeling that this guy might not be the best choice for president.
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Give every single doxxed GJ member secret service protection, and make Trump pay for it.
Even easier: just reassign the guys from his detail to protect those people, until there's nobody left to cover his entourage.
Give the people Trump trusts with his life to the people he likely wants to be silenced? Good idea.
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If those were BLM activists, they'd have a SWAT team breaking down their door within minutes of posting this.
This could be either a great time to be an FBI agent - or the worst time.
Imagine becoming a fed because you want to uphold the law and chase down bad guys, figuring you're going to be tracking down drug dealers and human traffickers and mafia goons, and instead you get tasked with running down Karen and Cletus who decided to firebomb a house based on something they read on RealTruthPatriotNewsDaily-dot-net.
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Everyone involved in this case should have 24/7 protection. This is probably gonna get messy
Completely normal behavior for peaceful supporters of a law-abiding citizen. Who wouldn’t do some friendly doxxing to support their absolutely innocent leader.
So... What happens next?
Unfortunately, probably someone getting hurt or killed. To the GQP the political violence is a feature, not a bug. I hope I'm wrong.
I wonder in what ways this will impact the trial. Everyone on the jury knowing that they are supposed to be annoymous but the jury that was not was targeted.
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I'm literally running out of horrific descriptions of Trump & his cult.
Just to be clear, the names of the grand jury members are public. They are written right there on page 9 of the indictment.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/documents/1ccdf52e-1ba2-434c-93f8-2a7020293967.pdf
Right, the fact that they dug up their addresses and posted them is the disturbing part. The article, particularly the headline, is misleading.
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I feel like this should be another charge against Trump. I know he didn't do it, but he was still responsible for this.
Yikes, I hope these people's entire family has some sort of protection. It's normal for them to attempt to kill anyone they don't like.
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This must be so scary for those jurors. Our legal system and democracy are about (continues) to be tested.
We now know at least one trumper can read.
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