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In my new scale, °X, 0 is Earths' record lowest surface temperature, 50 is the global average, and 100 is the record highest, with a linear scale between each point and adjustment every year as needed.

https://explainxkcd.com/3001/

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[–] oo1@lemmings.world 3 points 6 hours ago

Solved global warming. Nice.

[–] communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 6 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I actually think a great compromise between c and f would be c x 2 so 200c is boiling point, all the benefits of c and f

[–] bitwaba@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Supposedly one of the main draws for fahrenheit is that common cold temperatures aren't negative, so this doesn't address that part.

[–] communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 6 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

honestly why would someone care about that... common cold temperatures being negative makes more sense to me, i say this as an american.

[–] Hamartia@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

This is the point. Whether ice is likely to form is a very important aspect of weather.

Is it going snow instead of rain. Are the roads going to be treacherous. Will my water supply stop flowing.

[–] RandomVideos@programming.dev 15 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Why isnt the list ordered by cursedness?

Galen has by far the lowest score and real Celsius the highest

[–] pressanykeynow@lemmy.world 7 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (2 children)

Can we count 10/0 as a big number? Or even just as a number.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 5 points 12 hours ago
[–] Bgugi@lemmy.world 31 points 1 day ago (1 children)

After joking about this at work, I landed on the most cursed scale I could think of... pT = log10 FPW.

Pros: no bottom to scale, increasing negative values asymptotically approach absolute zero. Water freezes at zero.

1 pT is almost exactly the melting point of iridium. Lightning bolts are around 2 pT. Boiling points of neon and helium are in the neighborhood of -1 and -2.

[–] Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz 3 points 5 hours ago

At least that follows some mathematical logic. Mohs scale of hardness is pretty close to pT scale in that sense, but there’s no mathematics or logic involved. It’s just a list of standard materials that define specific points on the scale. When you compare the results with a more logical scale, it looks neatly non-linar at first glance, but the closer you look, the less sense it makes. It’s just a list of exceptions to whatever rule you may have had in mind.

Doesn’t mean it’s a useless scale. You can totally use it for qualitative assessment of hardness, but steer clear of it when numbers and decimals actually matter.

[–] Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz 61 points 1 day ago (1 children)

LOL, the original Celsius scale really is 10/0 cursed.

[–] mayhair@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)
[–] lars@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 57 minutes ago

Dividing by zero

still makes more sense to me than a lower-number-means-warmer-temperature scale.

[–] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Real Celsius 10/0 , Galen | 4/-4

Lmfao. Surprised there isn't one that is something like sqrt(-1)/10. Probably something to do with E&M lol

[–] Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz 3 points 20 hours ago

You could totally make an extra cursed temperature scale. Randall proposed the °X scale, but maybe we can do better than that. That was pretty cursed because it defines three points based on statistics observed on of Earth and uses linear interpolation to connect the dots.

I propose an extra cursed system that uses completely fictional values. Let’s take -π as the melting point of unicorns and +GrahamsNumber as the peak temperature in the core of the hypothetical planet Vulcan. Between the two points you can fit any seventh degree polynomial you like in order to get the values that fit your needs. On Wednesdays you can use a sine wave too.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 7 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

I once read that circular thermometers were a thing and that's why fahrenheit has 180° between freezing and boiling.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 12 points 22 hours ago

I think a degree F was 1/10,000 of the volume of mercury he happened to use in his first thermometer. The 180 was probably a coincidence because bimetal spring thermometers came along later.

[–] TheTetrapod@lemmy.world 1 points 19 hours ago

I've heard this too. It also allows for easily making your own thermometer, since you can just divide by 2 until you get all the way down to degrees.

[–] TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz 8 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Non-linear temperature hurts my noggin

[–] oo1@lemmings.world 2 points 6 hours ago

I recommend staying in abstract then. Real world stuff like latent heat and state-changes might maky it boyle.

[–] SomeoneSomewhere@lemmy.nz 34 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I am very surprised that Rankine gets such a high cursedness score. Isn't it just the same as Kelvin but based on Fahrenheit instead of Celsius?

[–] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 65 points 1 day ago (17 children)

Because it implies you are using US Costumary/Imperial units for science or "fancy" engineering.

[–] SomeoneSomewhere@lemmy.nz 4 points 1 day ago

The other scores seem to be more about inherent cursedness, not simply 'there is a far better option'.

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[–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yes, but if you have to convert from Fahrenheit to another scale anyways, why in the hell would you not just go straight to Kelvin?!

[–] SomeoneSomewhere@lemmy.nz 5 points 17 hours ago

Converting between Kelvin and Celsius is simple addition; converting between Rankine and Fahrenheit is simple addition. Converting between the two groups requires multiplication, and pre calculator, that's notably harder.

Also, all your kJ/kg/°C or BTU/lb/°F tables and factors are identical when you swap to referencing absolute zero. If you change to the other unit system, all that goes out the window.

[–] Raptorox@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago

Fahrenheit stacks I guess

[–] Jakylla@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Mesuring temperature in radians: 3.14/π

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Is that hot pie like on my grandma’s window sill? Or hot pie like where my grandma gave lap dances to put herself through law school?

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 4 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

I was positive that the Wedgwood scale had to be fictional but nope! That Josiah dude was WEIRD 😄

[–] MarcomachtKuchen@feddit.org 10 points 1 day ago

These scores a killing me

[–] devilish666@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Meanwhile me measuring temperature with scale of pain

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

It’s about 2.7x I’m not leaving the house today. If it drops down to like 2.5x I might go check the mail.

[–] nialv7@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] Pulptastic@midwest.social 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think that meme is older than the Fediverse.

[–] nialv7@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago

I was pointing to the comments, not the post.

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