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Milton Is the Hurricane That Scientists Were Dreading | Climate change set up the Gulf of Mexico to birth a storm this strong, this fast. (www.theatlantic.com)
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[–] Lugh@futurology.today 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I am aware that they have a state insurer in Florida. They are going to need it. I can't see a single private insurance company wanting to touch anything to do with rebuilding in areas affected by this. They know climate change is getting worse, and this is only going to happen soon again.

[–] silence7 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I believe the state insurer there (Citizens) is undercapitalized. There's a very good chance that Florida will be forced to collect supplemental assessments from everybody who has any kind of insurance policy there.

[–] Lugh@futurology.today 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

I'm surprised there isn't more movement to just completely ban building in these areas. Getting everyone else to cover the cost of their predictable destruction seems very unfair.

[–] reallykindasorta 5 points 1 month ago

I think insurance companies pulling out of certain areas will amount to the same thing unless they are forced by regulators to provide coverage. If regulators do force that it will be a bandaid—states need to be starting relocation funds for climate impact

[–] mycodesucks@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The problem with that is "these areas" is more or less the entire state.

[–] Lugh@futurology.today 3 points 1 month ago

I should have been more specific, I was just referring to the storm surge flooded areas.

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

I’m not seeing the problem

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

thank goodness it mostly missed the yucatan, my heart goes out to florida tho :(

[–] silence7 12 points 1 month ago

Yeah, was looking at stats on housing in the Tampa area; most of it is older then the hurricane resistance building codes, and large areas are going to be inundated.

There is going to be a lot of suffering from this one.