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Former Google CEO Eric Schmidt says we should go all in on building AI data centers because 'we are never going to meet our climate goals anyway' (www.businessinsider.com)
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[–] BananaTrifleViolin@lemmy.world 78 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

So stupid. This AI evangelism is getting ludicrous. "Let's burn the planet because the AI will help us solve the problem" is utter lunancy.

We already have the answers to the current problem. To make a new worse problem and hope some magic AI will solve it for us is reckless and madness.

It's becoming increasingly clear how moronic the leadership in the tech world really is. They think they are geniuses because they have helmed companies that print money, but all they have done is ride the cost tails of the technical and creative minds in their businesses and built monopolies with the technologies they've accrued.

Schmidt is an idiot. Musk is a moron. Steve Jobs was a cretin, who died because he thought he knew best about pancreatic cancer. They all believe the success of huge teams of people are their own. Ignore these idiots.

[–] skvlp@lemm.ee 29 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Schmidt and Musk are examples of tech leaders that are a danger to humanity.

[–] tabarnaski@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'd add Peter Thiel to that list.

[–] john_lemmy 6 points 1 month ago

I would add all of them.

[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

there will never be any immediate profits to be made from fixing climate change, and the people who profit from not ever fixing climate change aren't the ones who have to worry about climate change

that's why climate change will never be fixed, no matter how stupid tech billionaire CEOs are

[–] MrMakabar 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Solar panels, trains, wind turbines, bicycles and so forth all have to be made and they usually turn a profit. There are also a lot of positive site benefits of a lot of climate solutions.

This is not to say fossil fuels do not employee a lot of people and fixing climate change is going to hurt people, but it is not as simple as having no benefits.

[–] JJROKCZ@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

But they don’t have the crazy high margin of making a piece of software and then charging subscription fees forever

[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Solar panels, trains, wind turbines, bicycles and so forth all have to be made and they usually turn a profit

that may be true, but who owns all the lawmakers?

spoiler alert: it's not the damn bicycle companies

edit: more information https://news.climate.columbia.edu/2023/05/31/report-finds-228-local-restrictions-against-siting-wind-solar-and-other-renewables/

it's about money. that's it. big oil has the money, and wants the rest of the money--renewables hinder that, so renewables are hobbled forever. it seems like it should be more complicated, but it's not. it's the money, period

[–] MrMakabar 5 points 1 month ago

That is why renewables replacing fossil fuels is so important. As soon as an industry looses its profit margin, it starts to loose political power as well.

[–] Clent@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Damn, so this is why movies on AI are always about how it decides the only solution is to kill all humans.

[–] fckreddit@lemmy.ml 63 points 1 month ago

In short what he is saying is, we should kill all poor people and destroy ecosystems, so that rich people can make even more money this time from AI. Fuck these assholes.

[–] Mandy@sh.itjust.works 27 points 1 month ago

Like come on man, no single person should be allowed to be this openly evil

These caricatures of people should stay where they belong. In fiction

[–] eran_morad@lemmy.world 24 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

A few guillotines are all we need to meet our climate goals.

[–] Maultasche@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The billionaires are going to die anyway

[–] MrMakabar 2 points 1 month ago

They unfortunatly just give their wealth to their children.

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago

Eric Schmidt is the guy who took down Google's motto of "Don't be Evil". He is the reason Google turned evil. He should not be given an audience.

[–] mumblerfish@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago

Hey, he must be the guy from the comic

[–] Atrichum@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago

This is a declaration of war against mankind

[–] lemmydividebyzero@reddthat.com 8 points 1 month ago

Let's start the nuclear war. We'll die anway..

[–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago

"Yes, the needs in this area will be a problem, but I'd rather bet on AI solving the problem than constraining it and having the problem," Schmidt said.

In 2022, Schmidt founded White Stork, a defense company that develops AI-powered drones.

I guess, the guy does have a solution after all. Just let AI drones kill 90% of humanity, that'll slash emissions quite drastically.

[–] paddirn@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Fuck it, we’re all gonna die anyways