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[–] Visstix@lemmy.world 44 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Coffee / energy drink drinkers sound like drug addicts

[–] candybrie@lemmy.world 43 points 1 month ago (4 children)

That's because they are. It's just a socially acceptable drug addiction.

[–] Evkob@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 month ago

I currently work as a barista, but I've also previously been a pharmacy assistant in a methadone clinic for recovering opioid addicts.

Honestly apart from the paperwork and the stakes involved if one messes up, the jobs are pretty similar.

[–] ReakDuck@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago

It boosts our economy....

[–] abcd@feddit.org 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

But I’d say (at least that’s my experience) it’s not a very addictive substance. Or it depends heavily on the person.

I drink 0-5 cups a day. I like the taste and I like drinking it in some social settings. I don’t need it in the morning to get my body awake. I can just stop drinking coffee any time for longer periods of time without any issues.

Once I was working in Bavaria for about 6 weeks. We drank around 1l of beer every dinner. Returning home I wanted to drink a beer after the first dinner. This made me stop drinking alcohol for two months and since I made this experience I regularly stop consuming substances that may be addictive. I never experienced this with caffeine.

[–] candybrie@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Caffeine is physically addictive. You get withdrawals if you're addicted and stop cold turkey. It does vary person to person. But most people get a splitting headache.

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

Maybe it's not very addictive for you. It is for most people.

The way you are with coffee is the way I am with nicotine. I've smoked. I've quit smoking. I've started again. The most craving I've gotten for a cigarette was incredibly mild. Once I read that nicotine could trigger certain diseases that run in my family, I quit tobacco completely and I've never looked back. I haven't had a cigarette in about 18 years, and quitting was trivially easy for me.

Based on this, I could say "Cigarettes aren't very addictive. They're easy to quit!" And of course, I'd be dead wrong.

[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I'll never understand caffeine addicts. It's such a boring drug to get hooked on. How do people find it pleasurable? It does nothing but slightly increase your concentration at most. You don't even get a dopamine hit.

[–] Naz@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago

I'm in the Top 10% of players in my league, but I'll never be in the Top 1%.

Why? Because everyone there is either cheating or on something.

Caffeine is legal and not banned by most sporting jurisdictions, so if that's the only thing you can take to enhance performance -- you take it.

With a caffeine addiction, I can skirt Top 6% and lie to myself that I deserve that position.

[–] RobMyBot@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You sound like you think coffee drinkers are trying to get high by drinking coffee.

[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Well they sure act like it gets them high, especially when people say that they literally cannot function without caffeine. Sure sounds like drug addiction to me.

[–] stupidcasey@lemmy.world 26 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Fun fact, caffeine has a half life of 3-7 hrs, after that the positive effects fade and you are left with all the negative(jitters, dehydration, fatigue, depression…) but it will be an average of 5 hrs. so to alleviate this you should only drink half the caffeine you would normally consume in the morning and half about 3-5 hours into your shift, or Probably far less than that given how much caffeine people drink to avoid the above mentioned symptoms, also drinking plenty of water and try magnesium and exercise too ensure the caffeine moves out of your body before the symptoms kick in, or consider switching to a natural alternative like cocaine(That last bit was a joke don’t sue me)

[–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Caffinated beverages don't dehydrate you. Yes, caffeine has a mild diuretic effect, but it's not enough to negate the water in the beverage.

[–] stupidcasey@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Well technically it’s particles reducing osmotic pressure but the remedy is drinking water and that’s a tad bit harder to explain.

[–] meowMix2525@lemm.ee 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

The hack for this is to get cold brew (more caffeinated and tastes good cold) and sip it slowly throughout the day alongside water.

This is how I avoid a crash when I do drink coffee. The negative side effects of caffeine make me want to end it all though so I tend to avoid drinking it with any regularity these days.

[–] greyw0lv@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I do caffeine and antidepressants. Are you saying if I quit caffeine I might be able to remove the antidepressants?

[–] meowMix2525@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago

That's certainly a possibility, but I'm no psychiatrist. If the coffee started before the antidepressants then I would say it's worth a try at the very least.

For me it's less depression and more intense anxiety that can lead to depression. People look at me like I'm crazy when I bring it up though so maybe it's just me.

[–] cerement 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

the fake raspberry that gives you metallic burps for the next four hours

[–] db2@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

"5 Hour Energy" that does its best to come back up immediately.

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

caffeine is a drug what you expect? heh

[–] affiliate@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

i’ve mostly given up on expecting/trying to make coffee taste good. at this point i just eat the roasted beans and carry on with my day. it’s also more efficient since you lose a fair amount of caffeine through the brewing process. at this point i only have like 8-15 beans a day.

i still go to a cafe from time to time if i want a nice cappuccino or something, but i don’t bother with any of it at home.

edit: i should mention that roasted coffee beans can taste pretty good if they're been roasted properly (and even better if eaten within a week of roasting). and you can get a pretty decent bean roaster for like 200$, and then after that a 3 lb. bag of unroasted beans costs like 30$. the 200$ upfront charge is pretty expensive, but it ends up paying for itself pretty quickly since you save an insane amount of money from buying unroasted coffee beans. when eating the roasted beans, a 3 lb. bag can last about 6 months to a year. so thats about 30$ to 60$ a year spent on coffee. even when i was brewing coffee, i found that the roaster paid for itself in about 6 months. not to mention that it's not that hard to learn how to roast coffee beans, and everything tastes much better when using freshly roasted beans.

[–] FrowingFostek@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

I would, if I had the counter top space. The air fryer/microwave/keurig/utensil countertop situation is too real.

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Not exactly the same but I just went to Amazon to reorder my coffee as I'm getting low and for whatever absolutely bat shit insane reason they decided to double the price in just a handful of weeks... So fuck that. Now I have to find something else. :/

[–] zer0squar3d@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago

Cocaine is probably cheaper now. You should check the market prices. /s

[–] ynthrepic@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago
[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago

caffeine comes in capsule format too btw. drink what you like and toss a cap down with it. instant 200mg shot