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[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 139 points 2 months ago (6 children)

I had an ISP try to bill me for an unreturned modem five years ago.

I kept the receipt because I expected them to be so incompetent. Good luck.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 76 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They ALWAYS try that shit. They never don't. I keep receipts and photos.

[–] saltesc@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Y'all have to use ISP provided modems?

[–] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 35 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I told my ISP explicitly not to provide one as I owned my own

I was out of town when they set it up, guess what was installed

It took a year of calls for the rental to be taken off my bill and they never took the hardware back. I have lots of everything they said (recorded calls and told them I was too since 2 party state)

I love having 1 fucking Option!

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[–] kn33@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

With my ISP, it's not an extra charge but included in the rest of the cost so it doesn't cost me anything extra to use theirs and if/when it fails, I just have to ask for a replacement.

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[–] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 27 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I had an ISP do the same when I moved out of an apartment in 2016. I still get calls from a collection agency. The number is blocked but if I check my "blocked calls" log it's been nearly every weekday for 8 years.

[–] NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Your credit must be completely fucked

[–] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 30 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Mine WAS hurting, then I filed fraud charges with the bureaus and copied the email that showed Comcast saying I didn't owe them anything

Now it's only experian that keeps getting them about every 6 months, after 4 reports they started vanishing off my report within a week automatically lol

Absolutely insane that companies can just say that you owe them money without ever actually contacting you, sell your "debt" to someone, and have that hurt your credit for 7 years

[–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 6 points 2 months ago

Maybe we can do that to them...

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

On the bright side two more years and it falls off their report anyway. It would be a mistake to pay it at this point.

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[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Was it Crapcast? I bet it was Crapcast, it sounds like a Crapcast thing to do lol

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It was spectrum Internet. Charter communications.

[–] phdepressed@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 months ago

Formerly known as time Warner cable (TWC) changed their name to try and avoid all the bad rep they rightfully had (and still have).

[–] shadshack@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Hah! I just recently got to switch off Comcast to a newer local fiber company. Comcast emailed and texted me for weeks telling me to return their equipment that I never had, but even their website showed I had nothing to return so I ignored it. Eventually the emails changed to "you've been charged", so I called to complain. They assured me that I wasn't actually charged, and then realized they owed me a prorated refund since I cancelled in the middle of a billing cycle. They absolutely weren't going to give that back unless I called.

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[–] drkt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 62 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Amazon gave me a partial refund for something that arrived with defects and then I requested a full refund because it turns out it was way more broken than I initially thought in exchange for sending it back but I never sent it back and they just approved the full refund.

There is nobody in charge at Amazon costumer support

[–] goldteeth@lemmy.dbzer0.com 39 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Once had an order arrive on-time, but the tracking information never got updated and kept telling me the package was "running late" and pushing back the expected delivery date, and then after like a week of that they just said "sorry, it's been delayed indefinitely" and gave me a refund. For an order I'd already received. And I mean, I wasn't gonna be the one to tell 'em they were wrong.

[–] IMongoose@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago (2 children)

My buddy ordered a 3090 during the covid craze from best buy. He gets an email. Delivery has been cancelled. Item refunded. Gets another email right after. Package delivered. He looks, there's his free 3090. Lucky SOB.

[–] goldteeth@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Maaan, all I got was some stupid spatulas.

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[–] __Lost__@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That happened to me too, but they automatically sent me a replacement. I now had 2 huge rugs, so I just returned one for a refund.

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[–] jonne@infosec.pub 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Because of you, Bezos isn't a trillionaire yet, I hope you're happy.

[–] AsudoxDev@programming.dev 5 points 2 months ago

Bezos is on his way to personally sue this man.

[–] TheDarksteel94@sopuli.xyz 15 points 2 months ago

It was probably cheaper for them to just refund you instead of processing a broken item and disposing of it themselves.

[–] WhatYouNeed@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

CS agents have to work a minimum of 17 tickets per hour. Their quality is assessed by How's My Driving responses from customers, and the HMD have to meet a certain level.

This incentives the agent to wrap the ticket up as quickly as possible, to the best outcome for the customer, in the hopes they leave 5* HMD responses.

CS agent actions cost the company money? Who cares.

CS agents actions were good for the environment? Who cares.

Speed and High HMD is the only two things on a CS agents mind.

[–] brygphilomena@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

I ordered something like shampoo. It opened in the box and got everywhere. Amazon wanted me to return it for a refund. The box was soaked. No way I could have returned it.

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[–] milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee 59 points 2 months ago (1 children)

In this case, "it looks like we received it" sounds like typical AI choosing a response that sounds right with no attention to its meaning.

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 23 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yep, I doubt the chatbot has direct access to the inventory.

[–] Chewget@lemm.ee 7 points 2 months ago

One of their marketed features is the ability to access this type of useful information. Amazon is supposed to be one of the leading developers of the technology. I would be more surprised if they didn't.

[–] GooberEar@lemmy.wtf 44 points 2 months ago (16 children)

It's not surprising here on Lemmy, but on pretty much every other site I've ever mentioned issues I've had with Amazon, the replies would be filled with people claiming it is the best customer service, that they've never had any issues with Amazon at all, and that it must be something I did to cause the problem.

Personally I stopped using Amazon on a regular basis almost a decade ago after it was clear that the company I first started using back in the mid 2000s was irrevocably changed for the worse.

[–] KellysNokia@lemmy.world 29 points 2 months ago

People who spend a lot on Amazon have great experiences on Amazon, people who don't spend a lot on amazon have poorer experiences

I suspect when you contact them there is a dashboard that tells the customer service operator how much effort they should put in to retain you as a customer.

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[–] ResoluteCatnap@lemmy.ml 28 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Ive had this happen a few times. It goes something like this:

  • i buy product and initiate return
  • i ship item with return label
  • as soon as return label is scanned then amazon will release the funds back to me
  • if for some reason they don't get that package then they say they didn't get the item back and take the funds back. When this has happened to me it has been 6+ months later
  • when i asked amazon about it they just tell me they didn't get it back. I tell them i have the shipping confirmation receipt and that this is someone else's problem and not mine.
  • there's a lot of back and forth and eventually they act like they're doing me a favor by giving me my money back

I think the problem was one of the drop off locations we used was stealing products, or just straight up losing them. But it is insane to me that amazon comes back 6 months later. The only thing worse than buying a broken dildo on amazon is returning the broken dildo and still getting charged for it. Getting fucked by the broken dildo twice and not in the ways i had hoped!

[–] jadedwench@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I always take it to my UPS store down the road instead of boxing it up and sending it out. You don't package the item up at all. They scan the barcode on my phone and take the item. Done, return processed. If they steal it afterwards, not my problem since the code was scanned and you get a notification/receipt. They have a lot of strange locations you can take it to, including random big box stores.

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[–] snausagesinablanket@lemmy.world 23 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

I bought an electric start generator that stalled out after 20 minutes consistently, This unit can run all the essentials in my house whenever needed. I called and told the rep it runs great but all of a sudden it dies for no apparent reason.

He gave me full credit for it and told me to keep it or donate it.

I figured out the next day that is was my basement dehumidifier trying to turn on and the generator could not handle it.

It was fine the entire time. It runs on propane or gas and has a clone of a Yamaha engine and is made by WEN.

[–] TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It probably depends on your account. If they don't think you are trying to game their system and you are a deep pocket consumer, they probably won't put up too much of a fight, they'd rather keep you hooked.

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[–] TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee 20 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Wait, so you got charged a year later after returning it? They only issue refunds when it has been sent back, so they are charging you for their own inventory mismanagement, or worse.

[–] reallykindasorta 20 points 2 months ago (7 children)

They often do the whole “we’ll refund immediately as a courtesy but you need to return it by x or you’ll be charged” thing— in this case for whatever (infuriating) reason they charged me even though it’s clear their own system (their chat bot) knew the item had been marked as received on their end. I dropped it off at a brick and mortar store too!

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[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 19 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Love how it takes them 3-5 business days to return the money they stole from you.

We had to remove our credit card from our account because Amazon kept charging us for Prime and I would have to call them to get it cancelled and refunded (and wait 3-5 business days to get our money back).
We were very careful when checking out that we didn't have anything checked saying "sign me up for Prime", even had it happen on a day where we did not place an order (and therefore weren't on the site) for at least a week on either side of us "signing up for Prime." Once we took the card off the account it stopped happening, so it wasn't anything we were activating.

It's annoying to have to re-enter our card information if we want to order something, but less annoying than having to call them every month to cancel Prime again. And anything that increases the barrier to using Amazon is probably a good thing anyway.

[–] s_s@lemm.ee 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

3-5 business days is the time it takes your bank to return your money to you, per your cardholder agreement.

[–] JaxNakamura@programming.dev 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Jeez, are they still using mail pigeons?

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

No. They are banking the interest.

[–] hihellobyeoh@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

I'm sorry, but I do want to point out, that even if they post the refund immediately, between their bank, and your bank, is generally why the 3-5 business days is in there, because they know there will be some delay between all of the involved parties.

[–] mentalNothing@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago

I dealt with something very similar recently and a call to support got it resolved. The chat bot… did not lol

[–] DucktorZee@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago (5 children)

You were lucky enough to find the chatbot. I had this happen when I could not find any way at all to reach someone about this problem. Ended up eating the charge f*** Amazon

[–] stoly@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

They seriously hide that shit and move it around so that you can't find it. Also it gets worse every year.

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[–] Lizardking27@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Amazon is dead. All the products are cheap, questionably-manufactured crap.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 months ago

Its not dead but it does have cancer and lots of bloat and fluid build up

[–] ArchRecord@lemm.ee 14 points 2 months ago

Always demand a human support representative until it gives you the option to, then the actual human will usually manually process your refund if you complain about how the initial refund never happened.

Bonus chance of success if you're a Prime member and say you're thinking about cancelling.

[–] Tikiporch@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

At this point, you can no longer trust Amazon to process returns properly. I've had three expensive items stuck on Awaiting Return, despite tracking showing it's been returned, and chat automatically processes the refund once I reach out. Frustrating ...

[–] robocall@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I cancelled my Amazon prime account last year. I'm so happy to not give them money, and realize I don't need them.

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[–] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I USED to get amazing support from Amazon

Example: GTX 980TI on sale for 600 instead of 800 so I grab it, but the order doesn't appear in my history? A day later it suddenly does and I'm charged FULL PRICE. Reach out to them to be like "where's my $200 off?" And they sent back "shit fam you rite, should be $400" and refunded me the difference

Now: ordered some syrup pumps for coffee drink making, 4 pack (4 individual items sent in 1 box), one comes busted, ask for replacement on (1) item. Instead get auto-refund approved, a rude message saying "they'll make an exception this time", and the refund took 3 weeks

[–] i_stole_ur_taco@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I don’t think companies understand that the words “we will make a one time exception for you as a courtesy” is the magic incantation to ensure that customer never returns.

I got that from Staples last week because they did me a real solid by refunding my online order they cancelled instead of going to a store with ID and the invoice and original credit card. Who the fuck goes to a physical store to get a refund on an online order the company themselves cancelled?!

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