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Frank Sinatra, Ella Fitzgerald, Miles Davis and Billie Holiday.

all dead people

Why can't we have nice things? These people are literally just archiving and preserving old media, and if I recall correctly, they have strict rules of sharing these archived media.

I kinda understand why they got sued by Wiley/HarperCollins due to breaking the rules of sharing unlimited copies of archived books, but this time it doesn't look like it.

Honestly, I hope Internet Archive survives all these lawsuits they're dealing with

If you attack the internet archive you clearly are scum

Ah, the copyblight strikes again.

I'm no longer really surprised at this - it just makes me sad. We're literally trying to burn down the library of Alexandria to raise the price of books.

Copyright law is a blight upon the world in its current form, and unless people take a stand it'll rot the beauty from the net and hold humanity back.

Such bullshit since most of the recordings sound like shit. That’s the idea though. These 78 records are made of lac bug crap called shellac. The shellac degrades over time so the purpose is to retain the sound off of the recording of a format that is physically deteriorating and will not be around in the future. The project is to capture a unique sound experience that will not be available for future generations.

No streaming platform offers this. No streaming platform offers the ability to hear music ripped from vinyl, cassette, 4-track, or 8-track. Sony and Universal will never offer this. The user is only given one option usually for a song and who knows what master was used and how the audio engineer felt that day to master the track.

Also, we all know how Universal treats their masters…pathetic. So many of them are gone now thanks to their careless warehouse fire. If people don’t create offsite archives, who will? We can’t trust the record companies to do it!

It’s really (like really really) time for a copyright law overhaul in the US.

30-year copyright, no exception.

Dead people don't need incentives.

Copyright law is just a way for rich people to complain about theoretical money loss over art they didnt make.

I've said it many times: I think that copyright for all published art should extend for exactly one year after it's publication then become public domain. For almost ALL media, the first year is the time in which it make over 90% of its money. If you haven't turned a profit, or at least broken even, by then then you aren't going to.

After tjay I don't see why you should be entitles to royalties from every sale, especially with our modern system of mass distribution.

The law locks up the man or woman
Who steals the goose off the common
But leaves the greater villain loose
Who steals the common from the goose.

The law demands that we atone
When we take things we do not own
But leaves the lords and ladies fine
Who takes things that are yours and mine.

The poor and wretched don’t escape
If they conspire the law to break;
This must be so but they endure
Those who conspire to make the law.

The law locks up the man or woman
Who steals the goose from off the common
And geese will still a common lack
Till they go and steal it back.

https://www.onthecommons.org/magazine/%e2%80%9cstealing-common-goose%e2%80%9d/

Oh my god. Absolute dumbasses at the record companies actively trying to act evil. Barely anybody will stream these and it sure isn’t so malicious of the ‘store’ selling these records is doing it for free.

I mean how many people are actually going to buy these ever again? Also their damage claims are per usual pulled from the oceangate depths of their ass.

If anyone remembers when torrenting was big and the riaa was essentially claiming something like 20%+ of the US economy’s value in lost profits. These people don’t munch on crayons, but they really should start because it would be a more intelligent hobby to take up.

Sounds like archive.org needs to move to the dark web?

FCK Copyright!

The US copywrite system is fucked beyond measure. They should realy be based out of a different country.

This only increases everyone's piracy desires. I hope the internet archive can be moved to an overseas domain so the USA corporations can stop harrassing it.

This is the best summary I could come up with:

The labels' lawsuit filed in a federal court in Manhattan said the Archive's "Great 78 Project" functions as an "illegal record store" for songs by musicians including Frank Sinatra, Ella Fitzgerald, Miles Davis and Billie Holiday.

Representatives for the Internet Archive did not immediately respond to a request for comment on the complaint.

The Internet Archive is already facing another federal lawsuit in Manhattan from leading book publishers who said its digital-book lending program launched in the pandemic violates their copyrights.

A judge ruled for the publishers in March, in a decision that the Archive plans to appeal.

The labels' lawsuit said the project includes thousands of their copyright-protected recordings, including Bing Crosby's "White Christmas," Chuck Berry's "Roll Over Beethoven" and Duke Ellington's "It Don't Mean a Thing (If It Ain't Got That Swing)".

The lawsuit said the recordings are all available on authorized streaming services and "face no danger of being lost, forgotten, or destroyed."

I'm a bot and I'm open source!

Well, fuck em. Good luck trying to fight what’s right.

If the archive fails this are they done???

I sincerely hope people are organizing to back this all up -- datahoarders unite! These days it's affordable to dedicate an 8TB disk to back up as much of these as possible.. anyone have any tips on bulk-downloading the individual 78s from archive.org?

Edit: I found this tool, get archiving, people

https://github.com/jjjake/internetarchive

Example:

ia download -a -i --format="VBR MP3" --search collection:georgeblood

EDIT #2: I've submitted a patch adding options to specify start and end item indices, so one can more easily download parts of a collection and resume later -- or coordinate with others so each can download non-overlapping parts of a huge collection, and put them together later. See this PR