Hey, no pointers!

Preach!

The summary that I liked from the last post was "python is the second best language for everything". There's always something specialized and better for every given job. But, if you want one tool that'll do a solid job everywhere, python is your go to.

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Can't speak for the science libraries as I've never used em, and I'll gladly just blindly accept that as truth, but for everything else it's always a pain in the ass. For being designed to "run on anything" it sure is funny that 90% of the time I download a python app it doesn't fucking work and requires me to look up and manually setup a specific environment for it. Doesn't help that the error messages are usually completely random and unrelated to this...

I always dread when some fucking madman makes the installer for their app in python, knowing it'll probably fail... God forbid it's a script that's supposed to modify something else. Always a good time for reflection upon the choices that led me to this point.

Even my old scripts I kept around for sentimental value. Half of those don't work either, and I can't be bothered to figure out what version I made em for.

I tried my best to scrub python from my pc out of principle, but as you say, it's soo common my distro uses it as a dependency, fucking bullshit!

Julia?

But the Lord came down to see the ~~city~~ OS and the ~~tower~~ app the people were building. The Lord said, “If as one people ~~speaking~~ programming the same language they have begun to do this, then nothing they plan to do will be impossible for them. Come, let us go down and confuse their language so they will not understand each other.”

So the Lord scattered them from there over all the earth, and they stopped building the ~~city~~ OS. That is why it was called Babel—because there the Lord confused the language of the whole world. From there the Lord scattered them over the face of the whole earth.

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There are 2 types of programming languages

• The type everyone keeps complaining about
• The type no one uses

It would have to be written by sane people.

Computer programming, regardless of language, is hard. The computer does exactly what you tell it to.

Because no one likes Java.

Hahahahahhahaha

But and instead of && means beginner friendly

My problem is with semantic whitespace

No, the dependency management in Python is a nightmare. There's like a billion options for it.

I used to love it so much more...

Of course... But the idea is that it is misleading... And there's more traps the beginners falls into. I have a feeling if beginners begin with C++, or other language that is strongly typed and requires memory management and then do some other language that is more abstract like python; they will become better programmers compared to them doing it in reverse.

I don't know, man, far too many people seem to think that "easy to learn" means they'll know all they need to know in relatively short time.

Like, you talk to our data scientists and they'll tell you doing anything in Python, no problem. But you talk to our seasoned software engineers and you see the war flashbacks in their eyes, because it racks up in complexity so fucking quickly, it's insane.

they are also working on a follow-up, uv. not really a fan of writing tooling in another language but it works really well.

Honestly also annoying as a not-so-new folk. I just thought about this yesterday, I reasonably expect to clone a random project from the internet written Java, Rust et al, and to be able to open it in my IDE and look at it.

Meanwhile, a Python project from two years ago that I helped to build, I do not expect to be able to reasonably view in an IDE at all. I remember, we gave up trying to fix all the supposedly missing dependencies at some point...