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But we shouldn’t run too deep into the rabbit holes of Trump’s supporters’ logic. He is himself a vortex of instability and violence. As his supporters like to put it, he likes to “stir the pot.” And he does. Attention, in his vision, is the only real currency in business or politics or media. So he keeps upping the ante and pushing new limits to get it, like a heroin addict he has to keep upping the dose to get the same fix. The externalities of that behavior have been lapping up, splashing onto countless other people for almost a decade. Now they’re also splashing up onto him. Trump’s supporters ask rhetorically, if it’s not Biden and Harris who are doing it, are you really saying that Trump is inciting people against himself? The answer is actually yes. He’s now twice almost been consumed by the fires he himself is lighting.

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[–] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 64 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

This lines up with people being stunned but largely unsympathetic after the first attempt. It was a suprise, although not an unprecedented one, but also it was totally understandable.

You don't use violent and hateful rhetoric everyday for a decade to a national audience and expect nothing to ever happen to you, especially in a country with non existent gun laws.

The fact that so far it's been two nutty Republicans lines up because these are the people he's been preaching political violence to for 10 years. Of course some of them are going to sour on him, but still believe the violence he preached was the right answer.

[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Hopefully he's "traumatized" away from ever playing golf again. All that open space and unguarded perimeter makes you and your gold club a lightning rod for sudden death

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm shocked his security detail even let him golf.

Like. the position of the holes are known. I don't want to give bad guys any ideas or how to's, but they gotta be freaking out every time he's on the links.

[–] stoly@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That’s because you don’t schmooze with CEOs and senators. “Elite” people tend to golf.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

pretty sure cheating while using golf to schmooze is not a great way to cut some deals.

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 61 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This man’s entire political career has been about stoking anger, division, and violence, then playing the victim when he faces any consequences for his actions.

Sadly, this stuff isn’t going to stop until the GOP keeping losing at the ballot box. We have to show up and vote the shit out of office.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago (2 children)

He's also not the most attacked person in history.

pretty sure it was Bush Junior that got a grenade chucked at him. Only reason he didn't get dead was the grenade was faulty. I'm also pretty sure he had more attempts in general.

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Obama has had to deal with a ton of assassination threats and attempts. Crazy thing is, he’s STILL dealing with this crap.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security_incidents_involving_Barack_Obama

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

yeah. Him too. Despite being an asshole who literally pisses everyone off with his narcissistic imbecility.... he's not the most attacked president (or candidate, or ex president).

[–] Vandals_handle@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

There were two assassination attempts on Gerald R Ford in September of 1975.

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 35 points 1 month ago (1 children)

WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA...did anyone check with Billy Joel about this being definitive yet?

[–] solidgrue@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago

I just checked and he still says 'we' didn't start the fire. Emphatically, in fact. Several times, even.

Seems that yep, this is all that Trump fella's fault.

[–] WatDabney@sopuli.xyz 29 points 1 month ago

Nice.

I've been threatening off and on all day to make this exact point and have even started a couple of posts to that purpose, but it never quite came together.

Now I don't need to - I can just agree.

[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

TFW your opponents start considering the "violence is the only solution" rhetoric you've been force-feeding your supporters for years and years 😱

[–] silence7 18 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

It's not even his political opponents doing it; just people who are wildly unstable who think they can attain fame by shooting him as a result of Trump's own long history of implicitly promoting violence.

[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

"Okay...." "Now I'm famous too!"

  • the nutters.
[–] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

You know who is loving this? Putin. When people commit these kinds of political violence, Putin's score goes up.

[–] ravhall@discuss.online 7 points 1 month ago

The stinky diaper dumpster fire.

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