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cross-posted from: https://slrpnk.net/post/13026188

People need to remember this.

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[–] Windex007@lemmy.world 49 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I went back to university as a mature student. Our prof was like 15 minutes late and some "did you know if the prof is 15 minutes late you're legally allowed to leave?" Chatter started.

Me, the ornery old man of 26 had to explain to the teenagers that they're adults now and they can leave whenever the fuck they want. It's about choices now, not compulsion.

[–] Maalus@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Except for a fact that the 15 mins rule absolves you from consequences from not being there - where absences can impact your grade. So far so, that some less important courses can get you a passing grade simply from going to the lectures.

[–] Boomkop3@reddthat.com 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Some teachers really should grow tf up. Why are they so butthurt over someone being present that they're adjusting test scores to fit?

[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

If you can do all the assignments and compete the tests without showing up, there would be no problem.

However educational professionals have found out that the chance of you completing the tasks set for you is directly correlated to your showing up and praying attention.

Anything else both drops their own performance ratio, but, more importantly, is quite disrespectful of their profession.

Therefore you show up in time and compete your tasks before the deadline. Also disruptive behaviour in class is frowned upon as you negatively impact the ability of others to perform well.

So if you enroll in education, you follow the rules. If you didn't, you kind of have a point.

But if you think yourself a special care of genius that doesn't need to study and show up for class, please stay clear of education.

[–] Boomkop3@reddthat.com 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I do think showing up and paying attention is the right approach, it's what I prefer to do too!

But as you mentioned, "the chance of you completing the tasks set for you" ... aka tasks and tests that are used to measure performance. That should be used, not some correlative excuse for educators not to do their jobs

[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Agreed with your last statement. Respect is a reciprocal affair

[–] Boomkop3@reddthat.com 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Most teachers are very respectable. But grading for petty reasons? that's not respectful. Especially if it's for a paid service that you're getting paid, and are able to do regardless of all students being present

[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's what reciprocal means tbh

[–] Boomkop3@reddthat.com 1 points 1 week ago

Someone has more to their personal life, some teachers reciprocate by being a petty Karen. I don't think that's the right approach

[–] Zombie@feddit.uk 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah, nobody is ever able to complete university level study without sitting in lecture halls listening to egotistical professors ramble on, that's not possible...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_University

[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Not saying it's not possible. Just that the system is like that for a reason. And it's really silly if you sign into a specific curriculum and not plan to adhere to it's rules.

It's like buying an expensive tool and throw out the manual, use it in a way it's not designed to and then complain about it.

You can just not enroll, or enroll in a open uni, like you posted. But don't enroll, go against the rules and then complain.

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 38 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I will forever remember when an incompetent, misogynistic neurologist expressed utter shock when I ended the appointment.

I reported him before I even left the hospital, and amazingly--miraculously!--, I got a message from him a couple of days later wherein he was taking my issues much more seriously.

[–] Sweetpeaches69@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

That's amazing. Kudos to you!

[–] Naz@sh.itjust.works 28 points 1 week ago (1 children)

K-12 education and other obligations have reinforced the social norm of enduring and sitting through uncomfortable circumstances due to fear of punishment or reprisal.

Is it so shocking that the behavior drilled into people continues to pervade their norms?

[–] sentientity@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago

Good point. It is so unbelievably unhealthy, tbh.

[–] Pronell@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I once walked out after waiting for the doctor to show up for the appt for an hour.

Next time I called, some eight months later, he no longer worked there, which was helpful as I was going to request someone new anyway.

I like to think he was fired in part because of me, and I did tell the front desk why I was leaving at the time.

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 6 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I don't know if that's fair. Scheduling is not left up to the doctors, for the most part. Being an hour late is terrible and I would also be very frustrated by it, but that could be because he had a patient or two before you whose issues were much more serious or complicated than they seemed to be during scheduling.

I don't know. I see this from both perspectives, having been a patient of dozens of doctors at this point. It's not always their fault. It's not even usually their fault.

[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I can see where you're coming from, but it really isn't that hard to ask a nurse to go communicate that you'll be late/need to reschedule.

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 5 points 1 week ago

I completely agree. I just don't blame the doctors for it. I blame the way the entire medical system is set up. Doctors tend to be overworked.

[–] Pronell@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

Oh, I had other problems with that particular doc already and at no point was I told he'd be late or how long he would be.

I was late to work in the end too.

[–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

In the US at least, almost all doctors have total ironclad control over their schedule.

Source, worked 17 years in a mutli-hospital system that also had over hundred practices.

Not saying shit doesn't happen, I just spent an hour and a half at a Vet, because they had dog it by a car come in. But it's mostly on the doctors themselves if it happens chronically.

[–] GaMEChld@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Depending on the practice, doctors absolutely can have input on their schedules. And they often overbook themselves even when they are on call.

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 1 points 1 week ago

That is why I said "for the most part".

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] Boomkop3@reddthat.com 0 points 1 week ago

Unless you've got some savings, probz a good idea to find a better job first